Wednesday, January 23, 2008

Tax Advice For The Home Based Travel Agent


The following is from a website called YTB Report. While they do have a disclaimer at the bottom that says the site is "not affiliated with, sanctioned, approved or endorsed by YTB ", it seems to be full of typical cheerleading. Maybe it is a Traverus site in disguise.

But on this site, they are offering tax tips for home based travel agents. While the info is disclaimed, I did show it to my accountant, and after he was done laughing, he handed me a bill for wasting his time! (Not really, but it made for a good point.)

Now, how seriously do you take advice from an "accountant" with an email address at AOL? To further that, one that is slashyourtax at aol? I wonder if there are any auditors that read this blog that might chime in on the applicability of this advice.

But nonetheless, it is interesting.

(Note: This is my disclaimer. The following advice looks shady, ill advised, wrong, and likely illegal to me and my accountant. Heeding it is at your own risk and neither this blog or I will be responsible for your foolish mistakes.)

This comes from a page on the YTB Report site:

THE INTERNET TRAVEL BUSINESS

PERSONAL TAX-SAVINGS

ESTIMATOR PROFILE




The best means for saving taxes for the average American is to operate a home-based business. In fact, if you do not currently operate a home-based business you are over paying your taxes by thousands of dollars each and every year. By operating a home-based business and keeping good books and records, any taxpayer can legally convert a major portion of their non-deductible personal expenses into new tax-deductible business expenses and immediately increase the amount of their hard earned dollars they get to keep each and every year. Dollars that can be converted to personal savings and that can be put to work to build personal wealth for you and your family!

The purpose of this estimator is to help you calculate the amount of annual tax savings you can expect by operating your own home-based business. Properly established and documented, your investment in your own home-based business represents a risk free investment guaranteed by the tax laws passed by Congress and imposed by the IRS!

This estimator was prepared by Accounting & Business Consulting, LLC in order to help you determine the amount of tax savings that the average taxpayer could expect by operating a home-based business. You should note that the estimator is designed to only provide you with an estimate of your annual tax savings. Actual results will vary and depend on the ability of the individual taxpayer to keep, record and document all deductions in accordance with IRS rules and regulations. For more information contact us at:

Accounting and Business Consulting, LLC 3303 West Saginaw, Suite D-1, Lansing, MI 48917 Phone: (517) 321-8600 Fax: (517) 321-0410E-mail: Slashyourtax@aol.com


Print this form below and fill it out to estimate your savings.



WORKSHOP TAX-SAVINGS ESTIMATOR PROFILE


1. Estimate the average amount of money you spend on each of
your children per month. This amount should include spending
money, sport and team fees, camps, eating out including school
lunches, trips to the mall, etc. In other words, all expenses that
are above the amount you pay for normal support such as housing
and meals at home. Record your average amount here: $_________.

Multiply this number by 12 and enter here and below in Question2. $_________.

2. How many children do you have between the ages of 6 and 18?
Enter the number of children here:_________. Multiply the number
of children by the total from question 1 above: $_________ and enter to the right. $_______________

3. Do you and your spouse have cell phone, pagers and PDS’s?
If so, enter your total monthly average expense here: $________.
Multiply this number by 12 and enter to the right. $_______________

4. Do you have a computer that has monthly internet and service
fees? If so, enter your total monthly expense here: $________.
Multiply this number by 12 and enter to the right. $_______________

5. Do you purchase newspapers, magazines, books and on-line
media? If so, enter your total monthly expense here: $________.
Multiply this number by 12 and enter to the right. $_______________

6. Do you like to entertain friends and family members in your home?
Please estimate the cost of one evening of entertaining friends
and family members in your home. $_________. Estimate the
number of times you entertain during the course of the year and
enter that number here _________. Multiply your average cost by
the number of times you entertain during the year and enter
this amount to the right: $_______________

7. Do you like to go out to the movies, sporting events, hunting,
fishing, or other similar activities? What is the average amount
you spend on a day or evening for this activity? Enter the amount
here. $_________. How many day or evening outings do you
participate in, on average, per month? Enter the number here _______.
Multiply this number by 12 _________ and multiply this number by
your average cost per event. Enter this amount to the right: $_______________

8. How many miles do you think you drive per year on average?
Enter your estimated mileage per year here _________.
Multiply this number by 65% (.65)_________. This number
represents the number of miles the average person can
convert from non-deductible personal miles to tax deductible
business miles. Multiply this number by 48.5 cents and enter to the right: $_______________

9. How many miles do you think your spouse drives per year
on average? Enter your spouse’s estimated mileage per year
here _________. Multiply this number by 65% (.65)_________.
This number represents the number of miles the average person
can convert from non-deductible personal miles to tax deductible
business miles. Multiply this number by 48.5 cents and enter to the right: $_______________

10. Do you pay for all or part of your current health insurance
costs? If yes, enter your annual cost of health insurance
here $_________. Do you pay any out-of-pocket health care
expenses for your family, such as co-payments, deductibles, or
drug costs not covered by insurance? Enter this number
here $_________. Does your family have any dental expenses,
including braces not covered by insurance? Enter this number
here $_________. Do you have any vision expenses associated with
eye care, such as contacts, glasses, etc.? Enter this number
here $_________ Add up all of your out-of-pocket medical costs
and enter it to the right: $_______________

11. Do you own a boat, camper, motor home or other recreational
vehicles? Estimate your annual operating expenses, including
park or parking fees, annual maintenance costs, fuel costs, etc.
Enter your annual estimated expenses to the right: $_______________

12. Do you purchase season tickets to sporting events, Broadway
plays, or other events? If yes, then enter the amount to the right: $_______________

13. Do you purchase gifts or other items for your spouse
during the year that exceed $500? If yes, please enter $500 to the right: $_______________

14. Add up all the numbers in the far right-hand columns and
enter the total to the right: $_______________

The number you have just entered is the estimated amount of new tax deductions
you can expect annually by operating a home-based business. Now calculate the
average amount of actual tax savings you could expect these deductio ns to generate
on your actual tax return. Multiply the total in No. 14 by 30% (.30) and enter this
amount to the right. This number represents your estimated annual tax savings: $_______________


26 comments:

  1. I did a quick Google search for the firm that prepared this "estimator". Apparently they have no web site. However, despite the copyright notice, I found the same form on lots of sites all over the internet. I wonder how many of them bothered to contact Accounting & Business Consulting, LLC for permission to repost their form?

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  2. "Fill it out to estimate your savings"

    “You should note that the estimator is designed to only provide you with an estimate of your annual tax savings.”

    “Actual results will vary and depend on the ability of the individual taxpayer to keep, record and document all deductions in accordance with IRS rules and regulations.”

    Doug’s disclaimer: Please see a Certified CPA (who we’ve used for years) to do your tax return.

    This sheet however, is a VERY good “estimator”. (Which is clearly what it is designed for.)

    PS – My CPA would laugh at your CPA for not understand what does and does not qualify as a “business”. ;-P

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  3. My CPA would beat up your CPA.

    My CPA is Better than your CPA.

    Once again - someone looking inside from the outside.

    If the home business / own business deductions weren't to be used - then why in the hell does the IRS allow them year after year?

    Tom

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  4. Unfortunately a lot of very gullible people would take this as legitimate.


    And yes, Doug, John does note that it has disclaimers in it - I think more than once, but what remains is that someone has put that up who has associated him/herself with YTB and I would say that YTB ought to contact the owner of the site and get it taken down - there's also the issue of the unsubstantiated credentials of the "author" of the report.....

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  5. So please tell me how "boat, camper, motor home or other recreational
    vehicles" qualifies as a home business expense or deduction?

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  6. They disclaimed the hell out of it but when you have 150,000 people a LOT will take it as gospel.

    At the meeting I went to, the director was explaining that all of his vacation travel was deducted as "research and development". He said that as long as the Travel Channel was in your cable line-up, you can deduct your full cable television bill. As long as any magazine you subscribe to has an ad related to travel you can deduct them as well.

    Can you get away with it a few times probably, but it is not gonna hold up to snuff.

    TravelPro pointed out that it was an estimator and it said consult your tax professional. Well would this estimator fly?

    Take your initial investment $______________ and add $3,000,000. Then subtract your initial investment $______________ and that will be your estimated earnings for your first year.

    Does that work for everyone?

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  7. How are most of these travel related? Entertaining in your home? Movies, sporting events? That has nothing to do with having a home based business relating to travel at all. Whatever..when they get audited maybe they will get it.?? I've been a home-based agent for over 6 years now, my CPA lets me know whats allowed and whats not...I'd rather take his advice (he used to work for the IRS) then any lawyer whos email ends in aol.com...thats just scary.

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  8. I don't understand 7, 11 or 12.

    Then again, I still hadn't grasped the concept of tax breaks for having children.

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  9. I have to agree, 7,11, 12 are quite interesting...this isn't a VERY good estimator. Those items have nothing to do with selling travel or a using them for your home based "business".

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  10. I guess the AOL email address is the icing on the cake. Then again EAB uses a Yahoo email address also.

    And the team leader that I keep talking about doesn't even have a computer or know anything about computers...but YTB will be giving her one according to her.

    YTBers will say make up anything no matter what...there will always be a sucker out there.

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  11. Where is Proud to be ytb lately...probably on a fam trying to maximize the dedcutions for 2008

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  12. My wife would love #13 !!!! "Gifts to your spouse over $500!"

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  13. You know, without having a home-based business I do write off some travel business-realted expenses: any costs associate with a FAM, cost of any training that I pay for rather than the Agency, cost of business-realted meals......

    But I have enough worth to itemize anyway and I don't think these expenses make that much of a difference...

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  14. 7...movies, sporting events, hunting, fishing

    11...boat, camper, motor home or other recreational vehicles

    12...season tickets to sporting events, Broadway plays

    Now this is just a thought and only a thought. YTB offers more then travel. Tickets may be purchased for sporting events, movies, plays, etc. I am NOT a tax professional, but is it possible the above, if used as a facility familiarization trip behavior, might some expenses be deductible? Could a boat, camper or RV be used on a fam-trip for the purposes of checking out a camping facility for recommendation to your clients? Seems too aggressive of a tax strategy for me IF that is the case. Any real CPA's or tax attorneys out there?

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  15. Interesting story....

    http://www.openjaw.com/stories/012108_YTB_OJ.html

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  16. Anything can be made to appear to be travel related expenses if they want to do it, it might not be legit but it can be made to look that way.

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  17. Of course, all these things can be made into a business expense, but not for 100% of the cost/use as is implied by that. How is your wife driving the kids in her car to soccer practice doing so as a business-related expense? Of course, if the car was "wrapped" as a business advertisement......

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  18. I leave for a few days, and all hell breaks loose in this place... LOL!!!

    Sorry guys and girls... I just got done finalizing a booking and Fun Pass for a friend. I'm also busy working on another group cruise for one client, a trip to Vegas for another, and a trip to New Mexico for another. Yes, I am doig al the research. I always do for my clients who call me about their trips. I am also taking some more vendor courses in my free time. I may not be in here as much as I want to be, but I will enter and post when I can.

    Anyway, I have already talked with my CPA, and know exactly what I can and cannot claim in my taxes.

    Here's a few which I can claim and i know that you work at home Traditional TA's can and do too:

    Cell phone: not the whole yearly cost can be deducted. Only a percentage which represent business usage can be deducted.

    Auto: Only mileage pertaining to business usage can be claimed. I only log mileage that pertains to business use.

    Cable: yes, if you have the Travel Channel and Weather Channel. An agent isn't going to send a client into a Hurricane! We need to know the weather around the world. We also need to know about hot destinations!

    Internet: Well, to conduct business, it is vital to us.

    Electricity: A percentage can be claimed since you need electricity to power a PC or TV... vital agent tools!

    Vacations: MUST have proof that there was business activity on that trip.

    Magazines: As long as it is a travel related magazine! A travel ad in Good Housekeeping (LOL) doesn't count!

    Supplies: again, a percentage of the total cost of suplies is claimed.

    There are more, but can't list them all.

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  19. And also, isn't there a percentage of square foootage ini your home that you can claim as home office - and then prorate the mortgage?

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  20. Kevin---good luck with the cable deduction. Weather info is plentiful on the Internet as are all the destination advice you can get....trip advisor is god!

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  21. Sorry, Not Kevin. Guess again John.

    I wish I were Kevin though. He makes more money than I do!

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  22. my CPA lets me know whats allowed and whats not...I'd rather take his advice (he used to work for the IRS) then any lawyer whos email ends in aol.com...thats just scary.
    My CPA is also ex-IRS, and actually still does audits for them as an independent contractor ... I take what he says seriously ... something found on AOL, not serious at all.

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  23. for the record, my CPA's office is just down the road from where I live... NOT on AOL.

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  24. I still hope he's not telling you to write off all the payments on your wife's car.........regardless of where he is.........

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  25. Wife's car... no. Actually, she has my previous car (which she wanted for a long time) now that I have... well I don't need to say it again. I already stated what I drive.

    Anyway, both cars are paid for, so there's no need to write off payments... which by the way... cannot be done.

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  26. Actually here is a site that tells you the Real deal...www.axmytaxes.info.

    Ron, studied tax LAW strictly for Home based businesses. His book is wonderful.

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