What is interesting is that they are still claiming that WCT is the fulfillment engine behind the air and car rentals. And noticeably absent from this list, is Globus and Cosmos. Could they have been one of the suppliers who may have decided to end their "partnership" as I suggested in early December? Globus has not been active with YTB since mid-November.
But I am confident that Carnival, Norwegian, Cunard, Holland America, Costa, Disney, Princess, Auto Europe, Crystal, Apple Vacations, Collette Vacations, Pleasant Holidays, Trafalgar Tours, Travel Impressions, Disney, and Travel Guard all appreciate that David and Sherri Ogg have let the world know just how much money can be earned in YTB.
WORLD CHOICE TRAVEL DOMESTIC $5 per ticketAnd what is the deal with all the potions and lotions. I thought YTB was a "travel" company, just taking a quick look, it seems that travel only represents about 40% of their "business"--and I am being generous there.
WORLD CHOICE TRAVEL INTERNATIONAL $10 per ticket
AIRPORT PARKING 40% of 1st day service fee
AUTOEUROPE 17%
WORLD CHOICE TRAVEL CAR 2.5- 5%
CARNIVAL 16%
COSTA 17%
CRYSTAL 13%
CUNARD 15%
DISNEY 15%
HOLLAND AMERICA 16%
NORWEGIAN 10%
PRINCESS 15%
WORLDWIDE GOLF VACATIONS 10%
GOLF SWITCH 10%
GROOPLE 1.5-4%
HOTELS.COM <10%
GDS Booking <10%
Vacation Rental <10%
HOT RATE HOTELS <10%
WORLD CHOICE HOTELS <10%
ANNIVERSARY WISHES REGISTRY 20% of service fee
ARTIKO 15%
BISTRO MD 25%
BLOOMING BUDS 15%
CAMANO ISLAND COFFEE 20%
CHECKS UNLIMITED 20%
CHINESE LAUNDRY 17%
CLARINS PARIS 25%
THE CRAB PLACE 11%
DINE WISE 15%
DINO'S 24 KARROT CAKES 15%
DIRECT GARDEN DECOR 16%
EQUIFAX 22% of item sale/montly subscription
EZ FOREX (FOREIGN CURRENCY) 40% of service fee
FRESH TOPIARY 11%
THE FRUIT COMPANY 15%
GINA ALEXANDER 25%
GOLDEN MOON 20%
GORMET STATION 20%
GREAT BIG CANVAS 10%
HABERVISION 15%
HALE GROVES 15%
THE HARTFORD; AUTO INSURANCE $12 PER LEAD
HOME BLINDS OF AMERICA 15%
HONEYMOON WISHES REGISTRY 20% of service fee
INHABIT LIVING 11%
JUST FINE, INC 10%
LACENSE BEEF 25%
LAUREN HUTTON 18%
LIFELOCK $32 per sale
MODERN RUGS 12%
MY BUTCHER 16%
NIMLI 10%
O&H DANISH BAKERY 10%
OLD TIME CANDY 10%
RAFAELLO TIES 10%
RESTAURANT.COM 15%
PASSPORTS/VISAS 15% of service fee
PORT PROMOTIONS (SHORE EXCURSIONS) 12%
SHIMMER & STONE 15%
SHOEBOXED 50%
SKINCAKE RX 20%
TOBI 10%
WELLWISHERS/Bon Voyage Gifts 15%
YOUR TRAVEL WEAR 10% of item price
YTB CARS $500 per car sale
YTB FLOWERS 20%
YTB OUTDOORS 10% of merch. and trips
ZCHOCOLAT.COM 10% of merch. and trips
ZENOBIA NUTS 10%
APPLE VACATIONS
Charter Package 10-15%
Contracted Scheduled Air 13-14%
Group Booking 5%
Insurance 10%
Land Only 13-14%
Published Scheduled Air 0-5%
BRANSON ONLINE 17%
COLLETTE VACATIONS 10%
CUSTOM TRIPS 6%
KENSINGTON TOURS 11%
LAST MINUTE DEALS 6%
PLEASANT HOLIDAYS
Air 0-5%
Land 14%
Air & Car 7-10%
SPAQUEST 10%
SPRING TOURS
Land Only 25%
Special Requests 12%
TRAFALGAR TOURS 10%
TRAVEL IMPRESSIONS
Online Booking 15%
DISNEY 10%
LAS VEGAS 12%
FLORIDA 12%
WYNDHAM'S RESORT VACATION E-CERTIFICATES 25%
TICKETS & ATTRACTIONS (WORLD CHOICE) 3.5%
TICKETS NOW (TICKET BROKER) 10%
AIG Travel Guard 20%
In this economy, where we are looking for the consumer's discretionary income, do the travel suppliers really want to compete with Modern Rugs, Checks Unlimited and a Chinese Laundry?
What kind of an idiot thinks it's a good idea to post agent commissions on a public forum???
ReplyDeleteI did a google search for "ytb commissions" and was stunned at how many blogs and websites YTB has posted with commission rates and false earnings statements. So much for the gag order. Maybe Coach doesn't know how to use Google.
How interesting...
ReplyDelete"We do not claim to be the Authority on any of the posted matters and we encourage everyone to seek wise counsel and use professionals for help in your personal matters."
Why are there 2 commissions shown for Disney 15% and 10%?
ReplyDeleteNice Try John... I just logged in to my Travel Portal, and the Rates you copied and published are so outdated.
ReplyDeleteIt's a shame that you EXPLOIT DUMB people for your own agenda.
How many puppies did you kick on the way to work this morning?
I hope your having a great day...
Remember, you REAP what you SOW.
If you followed the link it was divided out by cruise and tour. 15% is Disney Cruise Lines.
ReplyDeleteI did cut out some headers to save space when posting!
Why is it Johns fault for the idiots who post this crap from YTB? Again, whine to your own kind about their foolish behavior. Nobody should be posting commission levels on any public site or forum, and I hope the suppliers see it as well.
ReplyDeleteRemember, YTB also reaps what they sow.!
Its not his Fault for what these IDIOTS are publishing.
ReplyDeleteHe gets his jollies off by EXPLOITING them.
I AGREE, no one should post commission RATES.
Even if they are not accurate and up to date.
We ALL REAP what we SOW... not just YTB...
Not just John...
ALL OF US...
GOD BLESS US ALL and have MERCY on our SOULS.
Well, considering that their blog was taken down last week and re-appeared this week and the post is dated January 2, 2009, I have to say it is pretty current. I mean you only added the butcher, baker and candlestick maker in the last few weeks!
ReplyDeleteI also verified the commissions with someone else in their "back office" so the numbers are indeed accurate. Maybe you are unable to read? Don't understand? Or just a liar? (Wanna guess my vote?)
No puppies were harmed in this post.
As a matter of fact, the Oggs are DIRECTORS with YTB. One might think they would know better. But if they are so "dumb" as you suggest, how did they become DIRECTORS and HEROS?
ReplyDeleteCheck it out,David Ogg is listed as a "hero" third in kine behind Coach on this MySpace page!
Look, here is an official YTB announcement about FIRST CLASS TRAINING (October 2008)being taught by none other than the "dumb people" David Ogg a DIRECTOR.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.yourtravelbiz.com/rta/CRTAs.htm
Yourtravelbiz.com is an official YTB site isn't it?
So who is lying?
Travel Agent-Please refrain from calling yourself a travel agent when you are not.
ReplyDelete"Why are there 2 commissions shown for Disney 15% and 10%?"
ReplyDeleteMost likely: 10% for Walt Disney World and Disneyland, 15% for Disney Cruise Line.
So a director, who is also the guy who is teaching the future of YTB is the same person who posted YTB commissions rates on the internet?? Interesting. Shouldn't someone who is supposed to be teaching others the ways of YTB know how freaking tacky it is to post commission rates, and that no REAL travel agent would ever do something so incredibly tacky? Gee sign me up for that class. Is it "how to make a complete ass out of yourself while selling flowers and meat products"?
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ReplyDeleteNice Try John... I just logged in to my Travel Portal, and the Rates you copied and published are so outdated.
It's a shame that you EXPLOIT DUMB people for your own agenda.
How many puppies did you kick on the way to work this morning?
I hope your having a great day...
Remember, you REAP what you SOW.
Bwa-hahahahaha! This is too funny, especially since the blog was posted on January 2 of THIS YEAR, at 4:16 in the AFTERNOON! LESS THAN 72 HOURS AGO, you putz! The chances that all these commission rates changed over a WEEKEND are nil!
I guess that despite the protestations to the contrary, the information that I got from ED in the compliance office at ytb is true. They really ARE selectively enforcing the new policies and procedures, and against whom! I mean, just check Dougies blog. Has ytb all over it!
What's even more disturbing is that Traveling Mom is still representing YTB and has 3 blogs going now.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06474006642599323955
"Have dinner delivered tonight" and it's from one of their affiliates called the Crab Place? I think I'll pass knowing the sanitary habits of most YTBers. I wonder if they also have a deal with Drugstore.com for some RID delivered at the same time.
ReplyDeleteA Real Travel Pro said...
ReplyDeleteTravel Agent-Please refrain from calling yourself a travel agent when you are not.
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So that I can be politically correct, when a person enters the travel industry and are learning the ropes, educating themselves and doing what they are supposed to do, what is the title they use that is acceptable?
NMH and Denyse, for today, why don't we stay on topic? This is a major thing. There is a DIRECTOR out there who is publishing confidential information on the internet, for all the world to see, 18 days AFTER the newest policies and procedures went into effect. Included in those policies and procedures are direct wordings prohibiting just this type of thing, yet here it is. One would think that a DIRECTOR would know this.
ReplyDeleteIt also calls into question the communication that I had with the compliance office where an employee stated to me that they are NOT selectively enforcing the new policies and procedures, yet 18 days AFTER they go into effect, here is this blog by a DIRECTOR. Now, since a DIRECTOR owns this blog, and has published this confidential information, are they or are they not selectively enforcing the newest and most stringent policies and procedures?
Ainsworth said...
ReplyDeleteNMH and Denyse, for today, why don't we stay on topic?
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Can someone email that info to me please. I really want to know. Thanks!
And, viola, within 45 minutes of me questioning Wood River about the apparent selective enforcement, the blog is now gone.
ReplyDeleteIsn't it interesting that all the pro-ytbers, Josh, Doug, FireMedic, etc., have been silent on this issue? Not one of them have made a peep on this, not even to condemn the Oggs? Wonder why that is? Can't be because they're afraid of sanctions, since they have been active on the blog and online in the last couple of days. Hmmmmm, sometimes silence is louder than words.
ReplyDeleteJohn said "I also verified the commissions with someone else in their "back office" so the numbers are indeed accurate."
ReplyDeleteYou info is incorrect.
Travel Commission rates are not even located in the BACKOFFICE, so your source is not reliable.
Anyway I thought you would have learned your lesson about INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY.
Travel Agent said...
ReplyDeleteJohn said "I also verified the commissions with someone else in their "back office" so the numbers are indeed accurate."
You info is incorrect.
Travel Commission rated are not even located in the BACKOFFICE, so your source is not reliable.
Anyway I thought you would have learned you lesson about INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY.
Jan 5, 2009 3:14:00 PM
Um, "travel agent", if this information isn't correct and supposed to be confidential, why did Wood River have the blog yanked so quickly, and why did they thank me for alerting them to it?
Because NO TRAVEL COMMISSIONS whether up to date or not should be posted.
ReplyDeleteWhy hasn't John edited his post to remove it.
He's not helping any Travel Agents either.
He's hurting the whole industry giving TTA's everywhere a bad reputation by showing how MALICIOUS TTA's can be when they have their feelings hurt.
Anyway, I wonder who gave John permission to copy and post that info.
He already got into trouble for the domain redirect thing. He needs to brush up on intellectual property laws.
I am well versed on intellectual property laws. And posting on the internet on a public site is fair game. No puppies (or logos) were harmed in the creation of this post.
ReplyDeleteI am curious about the domain redirect thing you have mentioned. What's that all about?
OK, "travel agent", you're saying that the info that John posted is incorrect. My question to you is, if it is incorrect, why did Wood River move so quickly to have the blog removed, and thank me for bringing it to their attention?
ReplyDeleteWhy did a DIRECTOR violate 5 different policies of the newest policy and procedures manual to post this information, outdated or not, a full 18 days AFTER the new policies went into effect?
Who has been malicious? Unless you consider the desire to alleviate untrained people from this industry as being malicious.
No one needed to give John permission to post what he did today. As far as I know, the blog was not copyrighted, and nothing in his original post is copyrighted, so can you please explain where any intellectual property laws were broken? Would love to hear your take on it, and where you got your law degree from.
Ains--chill out, he got his law degree from YourLawDegree.com (it is a subsidiary of Beryl-Martin, the makers of YourFakeStatue)
ReplyDeleteJohn said...
ReplyDeleteAins--chill out, he got his law degree from YourLawDegree.com (it is a subsidiary of Beryl-Martin, the makers of YourFakeStatue)
Jan 5, 2009 3:55:00 PM
Bwa-hahahahaha!
That's kinda what I was thinking as well.
Ainsworth(less) said:
ReplyDelete"Why did a DIRECTOR violate 5 different policies of the newest policy and procedures manual to post this information, outdated or not, a full 18 days AFTER the new policies went into effect?"
You obviously have comprehension issues...
Directors are not RTA's
They are REP's.
The new policies only affect RTA'S...
So the DIRECTORS did not violate the (LETTER OF) THE LAW since a DIRECTOR is only a REP and the LAW was written for RTA's.
Can you say DUH? DUH?
Give me two HOOTs for for figuring out the FLAWS!
HOOT! HOOT!
I love this BLOG.
INTERNET TRAVEL and Chinese Laundry for ALL!
HOOT! HOOT!
Melvin--the Oggs are RTAs as well. They have a booking site and as a matter of fact they are instructors for First Class Training. Remember that is the class all about TRAVEL.
ReplyDeleteYou aren't insinuating that YTB would put a recruiter in to do travel training if they were not doing the travel business are you?
Please figure out which way you woudl like it. Remember you cannot have it both!
But was their blog setup with intentions of recruitment or selling travel?
ReplyDeleteI would argue that the BLOG was setup for the recruiting part of the business, therefore they were operating as REPS when the posting of the commissions rates occurred.
Oooh Melvin--you are a smart one. Why not call Coach and see if he can hire you for September 21st. I am sure that defense will work well in California.
ReplyDeleteSo, let's say a child molester is at a cocktail party with no children. I assume you believe that completely negates the fact that he is a child molester?
Or what if a minister was running a scam. Does it mean when he is a minister that he is not a scammer. And that when he is a scammer he is not a minister? If so, that might explain SO much!
You YTBites sure do have a strange train of thought.
Melvin, if what you say is true, then I will ask you this question. If the Oggs blog was not in violation of any policy and/or procedure, why did Wood River have it pulled down so quickly, and why did a highly placed person in the compliance office thank me for alerting them to the existance of the blog?
ReplyDelete" and why did a highly placed person in the compliance office thank me for alerting them to the existance of the blog?"
ReplyDeleteTATTLETAIL! TATTLETAIL!
I bet your Parents are PROUD of you...
You love TOOTing your own Horn don't you?
TOOT! TOOT!
EWWW! Whats that SMELL?
It's AINSWORTH(LESS) TOOTIN!
HA HA!
[i]So that I can be politically correct, when a person enters the travel industry and are learning the ropes, educating themselves and doing what they are supposed to do, what is the title they use that is acceptable?[/i]
ReplyDeleteIntern. Trainee.
Funny how the "Travel Agent" above was crying about professionalism, and yet the post above just oozes that doesn't it? How old are you people?
ReplyDeleteHey! Have a Branson vacation. It is an awesome place to visit. Look it up!
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