About a week ago, a press release was issued about a travel MLM firm offering trips to Europe. It was even picked up as "news" by Modern Agent. In reading the release, I shake my head. Is it such a monumental task to be able to sell trips to Europe--like no one has ever done it? I also wonder why other agencies are not getting equal time in the press on their marketing efforts.
But as I read a little deeper, this was announcing a partnership with the same Chinese firm that is providing Olympic Packages (oops, Summer Event Packages...more on that later) for the agency. Now why on earth is a US based company partnering with an Asian company to provide travel to Europe? It just does not make sense! I don't see any European agencies partnering with Apple Vacations to provide travel to South Africa.
Certainly with the number of "agents" in place, it makes sense to seek out USTOA members? If not for a marketing advantages, how about the consumer protection membership brings? Are the clients of this "agency" very confident in Shanghai Springs? If the Olympic (oops, my bad ...Summer Event) sales are any indication, I guess not.
Now I have heard rumors that there is a continuous line of travel suppliers lining up to do business with this "agency". I would think that with all those options, it might make sense to partner with a company in the US that might be held accountable by US laws and not Chinese laws.
What do their current European vendors have to say. Collette Tours and Trafalgar. Seems like it is eroding the market share to me. Well, I guess if there was no market share to erode it is a moot point.
I just see this as yet another warning flag. Not only are we dealing with a company whose upper management has zero travel industry experience, but we are dealing with a sales force that is minimally trained and now the fulfillment is coming from a foreign corporation. There is zero protection for the consumer. Are the "agents" or the websites advising that this supplier is NOT COVERED by travel insurance? They are not on the Access America approved list of suppliers. So, if a policy is sold, the customer is SOL if the supplier defaults on the agreement.
But as the "agency" preys on the naive to join, I suppose the "agents" prey on the naive to buy! Good luck with that!
Lies again John....
ReplyDeleteWhile I do, as an RTA find it strange that YTB issued a press release about Shanghai Spring's European tours. They are insurable. I have sold 2 tours and AIG travel guard insured the trip.
They informed me that if the company were to "go under" or "walk away with the money" it is still covered.
Incidentally, if a TA walks away with the money, that wasn't covered.
Here is AIG travel restrictions (suppliers)
ReplyDeleteTravel Supplier Restrictions
AIG Travel Guard Alert: We will no longer provide coverage for people
traveling with these carriers:
Company Effective Date
Aerocalifornia April 19, 2006
Far & Wide Travel Company September 24, 2003
Pacific Bestour, Inc. September 24, 2003
Prism Holidays September 24, 2003
Society Expeditions October 23, 2003
Here is MH ross
Travel Supplier Restrictions
Enrollments and confirmation of coverage will not be provided for travel with the following suppliers:
Supplier Effective Date
Aero Continente June 09, 2004
Aerocalifornia April 04, 2006
Air Tanzania December 13, 2005
Bellview Airlines December 13, 2005
Caribbean Star Airlines January 09, 2007
Caribbean Sun Airlines January 09, 2007
Chanchangi Airlines December 13, 2005
Christian Pilgrim Tours October 13, 2006
CIT Tours January 11, 2005
Dialysis at Sea Cruises December 01, 2005
EAS Airline January 18, 2006
Etm Travel Group October 17, 2005
Exotique Expeditions August 04, 2006
Fantasy Holidays (Jericho, NY) November 07, 2005
Festival Cruises January 27, 2004
Festival of Asia, California November 22, 2005
First Class Travel, NY July 15, 2004
First European Cruises January 27, 2004
Ghana Airways July 29, 2004
Great American River Journeys December 22, 2005
Italiatour July 08, 2005
Legend Tours September 12, 2005
Magadan Airlines July 19, 2006
Mile Hi Tours June 07, 2006
Nuevo Continente August 30, 2004
Optimum Travel July 15, 2004
Rt Tours July 20, 2004
Sosoliso Airlines December 31, 2005
Suntrips December 22, 2005
TMA September 30, 2005
Tradewind Tours, Upsala MN August 15, 2005
TRANSAIR November 29, 2006
Windjammer Barefoot Cruises October 01, 2007
M.H. Ross and their underwriters are not providing Bankruptcy/Default protection for the following suppliers:
Supplier Effective Date
4 South American Travel April 03, 2007
Accent Travel & Tours June 23, 2004
Aero Canadian Tours & Travel Inc. January 14, 2008
Aerolineas Argentinas November 24, 2005
Air Polonia December 06, 2004
Alitalia October 12, 2006
Aloha Airlines March 21, 2008
Atlantic Coast Academy November 07, 2005
Atlantic Coast Airlines November 07, 2005
Atlantic Coast Jet November 07, 2005
BB Acquisition October 31, 2005
Buynetfares.com April 03, 2007
Coast Air January 23, 2008
EUjet July 26, 2005
Far & Wide Travel Corp. September 24, 2003
Farequest Holdings, Inc. July 11, 2006
Flightserv, Inc. July 11, 2006
FLYi Inc November 07, 2005
FS Tours, Inc. July 11, 2006
GB Vessel Acquisition October 31, 2005
Glacier Bay Cruise Line October 31, 2005
IA Sub November 07, 2005
Independence Air October 25, 2004
Jet-A-Way April 01, 2007
Jetsgo March 11, 2005
MAXjet Airways December 24, 2007
Mesaba Aviation October 13, 2005
MLT Vacations September 15, 2005
Royal Tongan Airlines June 09, 2004
Sobelair January 19, 2004
Society Expeditions June 29, 2004
Southeast Airlines December 01, 2004
Southern Winds March 15, 2005
Traveland.com April 03, 2007
Varig June 17, 2005
WaKeeney November 07, 2005
Worry-free Vacations September 13, 2005
Last Updated : March 21, 2008
© 2000-2008 IMT Services Corporation
RBC
Travel Supplier Restrictions
Legal Entity Name Operating As Effective Date
Aloha Airgroup Inc. Aloha Airlines January 07, 2005
ATA Airlines ATA Airlines October 27, 2004
Delta Air Lines and all of it's subsidiaries November 02, 2005
Delta Air Lines Delta, Delta Air September 16, 2005
Far & Wide Travel Corp. High Country Passage November 05, 2003
Far & Wide Travel Corp. IST Cultural Tours November 05, 2003
Far & Wide Travel Corp. Journey Unlimited November 05, 2003
Far & Wide Travel Corp. Prism Holidays November 05, 2003
Far & Wide Travel Corp. Regina Tours November 05, 2003
Festival Cruises First European Cruises January 28, 2004
FLYi Inc and all of it's subsidiaries December 11, 2005
FLYi Inc Independence Air Inc. December 08, 2005
Hawaiian Air Hawaiian Air October 27, 2004
Jetsgo Corporation JETSGO May 03, 2005
Mesaba Airlines Northwest Airlink and Mesaba Airlines October 24, 2005
Northwest Airlines and all of it's subsidiaries October 24, 2005
Northwest Airlines Northwest, NWA or Northwest Airlines September 16, 2005
Royal Olympia Cruise Lines Royal Olympia Cruise Lines October 27, 2004
Royal Olympic Cruise Lines Olympic World Cruises (Olympia Voyager) December 31, 2003
Royal Olympic Cruise Lines Royal World Cruises (Olympia Explorer) December 29, 2003
Southeast Airlines Southeast Airlines December 01, 2004
Varig Varig Airlines October 24, 2005
Last Updated : August 27, 2007
Travelex
Travel Supplier Restrictions
Please refer to this page for information about suppliers for which Travelex Insurance Services has restricted or eliminated coverage on the following protection plans: Travel Plus, TraveLite, Annual Multi-Trip, Flight Only, Flight Plus, and group programs underwritten by Old Republic Insurance Company.
Travelex Insurance Services and their underwriters have made a business decision to no longer accept enrollments and confirm coverage for travel with the following suppliers:
Supplier Effective Date
4 South American Travel April 03, 2007
Aero Canadian Tours & Travel Inc January 10, 2008
Aero Continente June 09, 2004
Aerocalifornia April 04, 2006
Air Tanzania December 13, 2005
Ambiance Vacations June 27, 2002
American Classic Voyages September 29, 2001
American Hawaii Cruises September 29, 2001
Bellview Airlines December 13, 2005
Buynetfares.com April 03, 2007
By Land and By Sea May 28, 2007
Caribbean Star Airlines January 09, 2007
Caribbean Sun Airlines January 09, 2007
Chanchangi Airlines December 13, 2005
Christian Pilgrim Tours October 13, 2006
CIT Tours January 11, 2005
Dialysis at Sea Cruises December 01, 2005
EAS Airline January 18, 2006
Etm Travel Group October 17, 2005
Exotique Expeditions (Ontario, Canada) August 04, 2006
Fantasy Holidays (Jericho, NY) November 07, 2005
Festival Cruises January 27, 2004
Festival of Asia, California November 22, 2005
First Class Travel NY July 15, 2004
First European Cruises January 27, 2004
Fitzgerald Cruises & Tours October 09, 2003
Ghana Airways July 29, 2004
Great American River Journeys December 22, 2005
Italiatour July 08, 2005
Jet-A-Way August 01, 2007
Legend Tours September 12, 2005
Magadan Airlines July 19, 2006
Mile Hi Tours June 07, 2006
Nuevo Continente August 30, 2004
Optimum Travel July 15, 2004
Royal Olympic Cruises September 29, 2001
Rt Tours July 20, 2004
Sosoliso Airlines December 31, 2005
Suntrips December 22, 2005
The French Experience October 24, 2003
TMA September 30, 2005
Tradewind Tours, Upsala MN August 15, 2005
TRANSAIR November 29, 2006
TransBrasil Airlines December 12, 2002
Travac January 30, 2003
Traveland.com April 03, 2007
United States Line September 29, 2001
Vacations By Sun Country November 29, 2001
Windjammer Barefoot Cruises October 01, 2007
World Explorer Cruises December 11, 2002
World Travel Vignettes Inc. May 11, 2007
Travelex Insurance Services and their underwriters are not providing Bankruptcy/Default protection for the following suppliers:
Supplier Effective Date
4th Dimension Tours January 24, 2002
Accent Travel & Tours June 23, 2004
Aerolineas Argentinas November 24, 2005
Air Afrique February 07, 2002
Air Polonia December 06, 2004
Alitalia October 12, 2006
ATA Airlines October 26, 2004
Atlantic Coast Academy November 07, 2005
Atlantic Coast Airlines November 07, 2005
Atlantic Coast Jet November 07, 2005
AVIANCA March 21, 2003
BB Acquisition October 31, 2005
Canada 3000 November 09, 2001
Coast Air January 23, 2008
Council Travel Services February 11, 2002
Downunder Direct September 24, 2003
EUjet July 26, 2005
Far & Wide Travel Corp. September 24, 2003
Farequest Holdings, Inc. July 11, 2006
Flightserv, Inc. July 11, 2006
FLYi Inc November 07, 2005
FS Tours, Inc. July 11, 2006
GB Vessel Acquisition October 31, 2005
Glacier Bay Cruise Line October 31, 2005
IA Sub November 07, 2005
Independence Air October 25, 2004
Intercontinental Travel Co. September 24, 2003
Ist Cultural Tours September 24, 2003
Jet Vacations November 02, 2001
Jetsgo March 11, 2005
Journeys Unlimited September 24, 2003
Landmark Tours December 06, 2001
MAXjet Airways December 24, 2007
Mesaba Aviation October 13, 2005
Midway Airlines October 30, 2003
Midwest Charter Tours December 06, 2001
Olympic Airlines December 18, 2002
Ozark Mountain October 17, 2001
Pacific Bestour September 24, 2003
Peter Voll Associates September 24, 2003
Premier Selections December 19, 2001
Prism Holidays September 24, 2003
Regal Cruises April 28, 2003
Regina Tours September 24, 2003
Renaissance Cruise Line September 25, 2001
Royal Tongan Airlines June 09, 2004
Royal Travel Service December 19, 2001
Sabena Tours October 03, 2001
Snv Tours December 13, 2001
Sobelair January 19, 2004
Society Expeditions June 29, 2004
Southeast Airlines December 01, 2004
Southern Winds March 15, 2005
Swissair October 02, 2001
Vanguard Airlines July 30, 2002
Varig June 17, 2005
Vec Tours October 18, 2001
WaKeeney November 07, 2005
Please refer to the Evidence of Coverage for details regarding Strike.
Last Updated : January 29, 2008
© 2000-2008 IMT Services Corporation
There are more, but why bother?!?!?!?!?
John,
ReplyDeleteYou are unbelieveable. I just went to Access America's website and under the FAQ about the list of suppliers there is a toll free number to find out if your supplier is on the list. So, I just called. From the website...(1-866-807-3982, to inquire as to whether a specific travel provider is included.)The very nice customer service rep put me on hold when I asked about Shanghai Spring INternational. When she came back she informed me that there are hundreds of companies that aren't on the list that they offer coverage for. Shanghai Spring can be covered as long as the other terms and conditions are met. And, really the only thing that would cause it not to be covered is if the company is in risk of folding or filing bankruptcy at the insurance purchase time. Feel free to call and find out the continued BS spewed from John.
(Countdown to these comments spinning AWAY from the actualy topic due to it being proven wrong)
John may be wrong about the insurance, but he does make a good point. With all the great US wholesalers available, why has YTB partnered with a foreign company? There are a ton of great suppliers right here in the US that offer packages to Europe and Asia.
ReplyDeleteYTB has in fact partnered with a foreign company. But, Shanghai Spring is not the only company that YTB has partered with for European trips. Go to any ytb website, click on vacations, and in the center of the page you will see European tours, and voila!!!!m Colette vacations!
ReplyDeleteAlso, under tours you can get Trafalgar tours. Both of which join pointed out in the initial post. Both are partnered with YTB.
John is trying to stir the pot thinking by YTB promoting the Shanghai partnership that that is somehow going to piss off the other suppliers. Keep digging
Isn't Shanghai Springs a travel agency? Why is YTB so hell bent on kissing this agency's arse when their are plenty of vendors right here in the states, more reputable, to book overseas packages?
ReplyDeleteJohn said...
ReplyDelete" Shanghai Spring can be covered as long as the other terms and conditions are met."
So they DO offer insurance! Wow, you sure contradicte yourself there John!!!
Also, you said that other suppliers we deal with would be angry because we deal with another company for European vacations??? Are you serious??? John, it just gives the client MORE choices and that is EXACTLY what a consumer looks for!
I thought I've seen many rediculous off base topics before, but as of yet... this one definately takes the cake!!!
Also, to answer a question as to why Shanghai Springs isn't a member of the USTOA is because they haven't yet been in the U.S. for 3 years... THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENT (as taken from the USTOA website)...
To become an Active Member of USTOA, a tour operator is required to have a total of 18 references from a variety of industry sources and financial institutions and must meet specific minimums in terms of tour passengers and/or dollar volume. The company must also be in business at least three years under the same management in the U.S.
Do your homework before you post a topic... LOL!!!
Shanghai Springs is a TOUR COMPANY... a supplier... a vendor.
ReplyDeleteDo any of you understand what USTOA does? Or how it protects you client?
ReplyDeleteI am surprised that YTB would not seek out a US-owned Tour Operator for it's special relationship. What's that about?
So, some of the other points in the comments are kinda valid...except the title of the post is "A partnership with an UNinsurable operator"
ReplyDeleteWell, once again John's crack journalistic findings are proven to be untrue...AGAIN....
I really think that this entire blog should be changed to
JOHN F and Facts: a bad mix
No, the blog should be entitled"
ReplyDeleteYTB and deflection. They spin the truth.
John - Another spaghetti against the wall and see if it sticks.
ReplyDeleteJohn is absolutely WRONG about this situation. An ethical person would pull the whole post down. But, no - He will leave it up with a small disclaimer at the bottom. People will read his dramatic title and think there is truth to it. It fits the template that he is trying to promote.
This way it will be Googled and their will be another "expert" saying bad things about YTB.
John - Did you once work for the Clinton machine?
I love it! John and the Facts: A Bad Mix!
I still like this one:
ReplyDeleteMLMs and Travel: A Great Mix
Travel like an insider! Discounted travel! Free trips! Upgrades galore! See why this is so simply true!
Explore why MLM companies are not only a great idea for the travel industry, but perhaps one of the best leading indicators for the booming travel industry!
Love this quote "Explore why MLM companies are not only a great idea for the travel industry, but perhaps one of the best leading indicators for the booming travel industry!"
ReplyDeleteHow the hell do you figure that? What has MLM/YTB or whomever done to HELP this industry at all? NOTHING but put un-skilled people in charge of other peoples vacations. Yeah thats a smart move...great help to the industry.
It's me again. I'm really worried!
ReplyDeleteBad news!!! YTB stock just shot up to $1.00! This has really got me concerned. I predicted it to tank this week. My reputation is ruined. Did you hear, RUINED!
1.00+0.03 / +3.09% 12:21pm ET
Appears we are dealing with a blogers blunder. ;>)
ReplyDeleteolescorekeeper
Yeah a buck, its back to the dollar menu..congrats!!! Has a long way to go to get back to 8-9 dollar range. I have this sinking feeling there is some insider trading going on.
ReplyDeleteJust think, the stock crashes, so Crotch and company start buying up the stock to raise prices. The blindless minions follow suit, stock goes up a little, Crotch and company sell sell sell....making millions. This isn't that far from reality.
John - Did you once work for the Clinton machine?
ReplyDeleteEven worse! He works for the BEDO (BUSH ECONOMIC DESTRUCTION ORGANIZATION) Putting America on Wellfare... One dime at a time!
Economis stimulus package... HA! Like that's going to stimulate the economy! It may help pay a family's bills for a month or two, but that's about it. It will still have to be claimed as income at the end of the year.
YTB will set a family financially free for life! I'm living proof! I'm not one of the top guys in YTB. I'm just a level 1 director. It doesn't take much to become a L1D, but the rewards are great!
Proud
ReplyDelete"YTB will set a family financially free for life! I'm living proof!"
Aren't comments like that a no-no? Wouldn't that be giving false hope to others. Just because you claim to be making millions..take a look at Rodney whos been doing it for years and losing money. And it seems a majority are in his footsteps and not yours. Oh wait..they must all be slackers/losers right?
Lisa, there are new innovations where a PTL can designate a new RTA to anyone in his / her downline to help that person build his / her team and become successful. It is helping out a lot, and only deprives me of $50 per person. I can live with that by helping another on the road of success. Now more than ever, YTB can become financially free. No, I'm not talking about milions... because I am not yet up to that pont yet. I make hundreds of thousands, and I am financially free. When I was making tens of thousands, I was financially free. When I was making only a few thousand per month, I was financially free. For some people, an extra $1000 a month can set them financially free. That is very obtainable, and that's what we tell our new members to concentrate on. Once they get past that level, then it's time for them to concentrate on the next step. We take things one step at a time. Wealth isn't created overnight. It takes time, patience. perseverence, attitude and determination. It takes someone who is not only willing to be a great student, but also a great leader.
ReplyDeleteProud,
ReplyDeleteHow can you actually beleve YTB will set someone free financially? Come on..the numbers don't lie. Most in YTB aren't making a dime, and most of those are losing money if they are making anything. Only those at the top make money. You can't actually believe that now can you? I know about 10 people in YTB and not one of them are making a dime. I know two personally that are wasting alot of time trying to make money and making nothing. If they spent that much time at a real job they would be making a decent living. But once again false promises...I can only shake my head.
ytbscam -
ReplyDeleteLife must really be miserable for you. Were you abused as a kid?
Lot's of anger and rage brewing with you. Looks like some counseling might be in order.
Helo its me agan. Wel im nut woried abot yTb stalk no moore. clossed up at a dolar bil. me and the grils wnt out fer a copple of martinin's and wit the medzication, im doin jest fine! so ha! Mr YtbScum is write abuot inrider tradeing goin on. its all a, itsss all a, a, scame, im meen scam. things wil bee beter tamorow yo waite and se. and onnnnnnne moe last thng i wnatt too sye is my montor is gegging fuzie ,,,,........,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
ReplyDeleteJust got back off of the China trip and I must say it was GREAT. Everywhere we went they had banners up "welcome ytb" also the hotels we stayed in were 5 star, and people stopped us everywhere we went...it was like we were celebrities...As much as I have traveled, I must say that 9 days was well worth the $999.00.
ReplyDeleteFirst off, I did not comment previous to this... secondly, I stated that they are not covered by Access America. If you want to see the AA list, send me an email and I will send it to you. Shanghai Springs is NOT on it. Yes, the clients will be covered for flight delays, medical issues, etc. but for any supplier issues (default, bankruptcy, failure to perform---nope.
ReplyDeleteAnd I did not check, but I have a hunch that if you check with TG or the others you will see that they may not cover ANY foreign operator.
But regardless, it is an unknown to the US operator, working with a MLM outfit who has mysteriously changed Summer Olympics 2008 to "SUmmer EVent". There is o way in hell I would cough up a deposit for something like that!
Anon said: "Just got back off of the China trip and I must say it was GREAT. Everywhere we went they had banners up "welcome ytb" also the hotels we stayed in were 5 star, and people stopped us everywhere we went...it was like we were celebrities..."
ReplyDeleteKidding, right?
Proud to Be YTB,
ReplyDeleteThere's a catch to your deal. I know Travel Lisa probably doesn't understand the disadvantages of joining YTB your way of "where a PTL can designate a new RTA to anyone in his / her downline to help that person build his / her team and become successful.
Joining YTB under this arrangement forces the Sponsor and PTL to be the same person, reducing one person in the member's upline chain of leadership.
It sounds nice when you say you are going to put people in the business under someone, but I don't like my sponsor and PTL being one and the same person.
Proud - I'm sorry to call you out again, but would you please tell us who you really are, how we can find your website, and give us a rough idea of how many clients you have that book travel?
ReplyDeleteSo Rod, if you don't like your sponsor, and they won't help you..what do you do? Where do you go? How much money do you have to lose before you move on?
ReplyDeleteAnd its not that I didn't understand Prouds ramblings about upline/downline or sidelines, I honestly don't care. When I see people making NOTHING, and struggling for something they were told was EASY..JOIN...GREAT PERKS..BS..its frustrating. I still see the BS posts/posters/ads ETC daily. I would report them all, but again, already sent a few..obviously nobody gives a crap. SPAMMING ALL THEY WANT...who cares right?
Please Rod...if you love travel, find a real travel job.
OKAY Spring Tours the owners are RTA's with YTB owner is Jason just call and verify that and act like you want to join. So YTB didn't seek them out, it was just a match because he is a RTA
ReplyDeleteYawn!!!!
ReplyDeleteThanks for the boring blog - I don't have any problem going to sleep tonight, especially knowing these topics don't have anything to do with the "tea prices in China"! I'm so groggy my jokes are stupid!
Travel Lisa,
ReplyDeleteI don't like my sponsor. I cancelled my YTB RTA and REPs accounts Monday of this week. My sponsor and PTL were the same person and it was not a good arrangement for me.
Generally, when you enroll in YTB, you have a sponsor and my sponsor's sponsor would be my PTL.
Under Proud's arrangement, Proud would be both the sponsor and PTL.
My plans are to look for a good travel company who will sign up a guy with no certifications.
YTB will take me back in four months, but so far I haven't found a sponsor I am bonding with.
I can tell you all other travel mlm's beside YTB are out of the question.
FYI if you are in your PT and you sponsor someone you become the sponsor and the PTL. Also I hate my sponsor and PTL who is the same person BUT it is not about them. I took the bull by the horn, take as many classes as I can, and don't depend on anyone except myself
ReplyDeleteWow Rod...you quit YTB. I'm very happy about that. I'm quite sure you will find a proper host to help you on travel quest. You'll be happier and you'll make more money. If you have any questions..I'm sure many on here will assist. :) Ignore the comments your bound to get from "quitting".
ReplyDeleteRod -
ReplyDeleteThank goodness! You were too interested in actually selling travel to be with them.
At the risk of bringing down the wrath of several others here, I would suggest that you contact Joystar - they are not an MLM (although they have been accused of that and have no relationship with RCL just now) and they do concentrate on selling travel - you can learn a lot with them.
but hte very best course to follow would be to visit the local B&Ms and see if anyone is willing to take you on as an IC with the understanding that you expect to learn from them. Obviously your split would be on the low end to start but if you prove yourself, you could certainly renogotiate that later.
Good luck!
CTA in MD
Congratulations Rod! I second CTA in Md's suggestion about Joystar. Ask for an experienced mentor with all around travel skills. Stay away from the cruise only people if you want to be well rounded in the travel biz. Heck, I'd take you on as an IC if I were not too busy to train you and too far away. Good luck and God speed!
ReplyDeleteRod,
ReplyDeleteAs a RTA and a PTL, I understand where you are coming from. I am an active PTL. I have a few PTLs in my downline who aren't as active with their power teams. Those PTLs have let their RTAs know that if they needed assisstance they could contact me. You should have asked your PTL who his.her sponsor is and sought out assistance there.
I am sorry that YTB didn't work for you. I wish you luck and hope you find successs in whatever you do. IN 4 months, if you haven't taken the advice of those here, I would be happy to be your sponsor.
Anon,
ReplyDeleteMy upline has been broken from day one. I discovered soon after I was sponsored in YTB that my sponsor was also my PTL. That's not a good arrangement in my situation. Even worse, I then discovered that my sponsor's sponsor had been inactive from YTB indefinitely due to a severe illness and family issues. That only left my next level who happened to be a Director who was so busy you could only get a voicemail and he only returned 1 phone call in 2 years. It was a disappointment I put up with for 2 years. I finally got so concerned about it that I put my sponsor on the spot and asked for assistance which he refused to give. That opened the door of opportunity to transition. I'll turn these lemons into lemonade which means I am no longer drinking koolade.
I'll discuss you being my sponsor at recruiting@swrtravel.com