Friday, June 13, 2008

Is This An Exaggeration?


Someone sent me this link and I am asking those in the know if this is an exaggeration or not. I know that the NFL has all but abandoned it's retired players and many are desolate and in need of income, but some of these names really sound like a tremendous reach. I know all about Lou Brock, Bonecrusher; but Serena and Venus Williams, Roger Staubach, Lil Bow Wow, and Dan Pastorini seem like they may be more wishful thinking than anything else.

Can anyone provide the links to the RTA sites?

Does YTB have any Famous Celebrities?

Check out these famous stars…

Lou Brock, Former Hall of Fame Baseball Player
Mr. Brock is one of Major League Baseball’s all-time hits and stolen base leaders. Among nearly 20,000 players to play Major League Baseball, Brock is the 22nd all-time hits leader with 3,023 lifetime hits and he is the second all-time stolen base leader with 938 lifetime stolen bases. He was inducted into baseball’s Hall of Fame in 1985. He was named one of the Top 100 Players of the 20th Century.

In January 2007, Mr. Brock was selected to YTB's Board of Directors.

Jim Brown, NFL Hall Of Fame Running Back.
James Nathaniel "Jim" Brown (born February 17, 1936) is a former NFL player who has also made his mark as an actor and social activist. He is best known for his exceptional and record-setting nine-year career as a halfback for the NFL Cleveland Browns from 1957 to 1965.

He is widely considered the best running back of all time.

In 2002, he was named by The Sporting News as the greatest professional football player ever.

Uniquely, Brown was every bit as good a lacrosse player, with the National Lacrosse Hall of Fame stating that he was "widely considered to be the greatest lacrosse player ever." Sportswriter Bert Sugar named Brown #1 in his book The Greatest Athletes of All Time.

Robert Pack Jr., Former NBA Player
Robert John Pack (born February 3, 1969 in New Orleans, Louisiana) is an American former professional basketball player in the NBA. Nicknamed "Pac-Man", the 6'2" point guard had a thirteen season career in the NBA, most notably with the Denver Nuggets. Pack was not drafted by an NBA team, rather he began his career being signed as a free agent by the Portland Trail Blazers on September 16, 1991. He played 72 games for the Blazers as a rookie, averaging 4.6ppg in 12.4mpg as he was entrenched behind veterans Terry Porter and Danny Ainge. The Blazers went to the NBA Finals that year, before losing the series 4-2 to the Chicago Bulls. During the 1992 off-season, Pack was traded to the Nuggets for a 1993 second-round draft pick.

Roger Staubach - NFL Hall of Fame Quarterback.
Roger Thomas Staubach, a.k.a., '"Roger the Dodger"', '"Captain Comeback"', (born February 5, 1942 in Cincinnati, Ohio) is a businessman, Heisman Trophy winner and legendary Hall of Fame quarterback for the Dallas Cowboys from 1969 till 1979. Staubach was key in developing the Cowboys to become America's Team and led the team to nine of the Cowboys record-setting twenty consecutive winning seasons. Staubach lead the Cowboys to their first Super Bowl victory and as a result he was named MVP in Super Bowl VI. Staubach was described by legendary coach, Tom Landry as, "possibly the best combination of a passer, an athlete and a leader to ever play in the NFL."

Anthony "Tony" Drew Dorsett, NFL Running Back
(born April 7, 1954 in Rochester, Pennsylvania) is a former American football running back in the NFL for the Dallas Cowboys and the Denver Broncos.

Dorsett was a college football running back at the University of Pittsburgh and helped to lead them to a national title in 1976, also picking up the Heisman Trophy, the Maxwell Award, the Walter Camp Award (Player of the Year) and led the nation in rushing with 1,948 yards.

He was a four-time All-American, and he finished his college career with 6,082 total rushing yards, then an NCAA record. This would stand as the record until it was surpassed by Ricky Williams in 1998.

Dorsett is considered one of the greatest running backs in college football history. In 2007, he was ranked #7 on ESPN's Top 25 Players In College Football History list.

Mike Alstott – NFL Fullback.; YTB Director
Michael Joseph Alstott, nicknamed "The A-Train", (born December 21, 1973, Joliet, Illinois), is a former American football fullback in the National Football League. He spent his entire 12-year career with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. He played college football at Purdue. During his career, Alstott was selected to six Pro Bowls and earned a Super Bowl ring with the Buccaneers in Super Bowl XXXVII.

He was the cover man for NFL Extreme for the Playstation.

James “Bone Crusher” Smith - Boxing Heavyweight Champ and YTB Director
James (Bonecrusher) Smith (born April 3, 1953 in Magnolia,North Carolina) is a former American boxer who was briefly WBA heavyweight champion in the late 1980s. He was the first heavyweight champion with a college degree (Vitali Klitschko and Wladimir Klitschko later achieved this distinction as well).

Total Fights 62
Won 44
Lost 17
Draws 1
Knockouts 32
Titles Won WBA Heavyweight 1986-1987

Roderick "Rod" Smith NFL All-Pro Receiver
(born May 15, 1970, in Texarkana, Arkansas) is a former American football wide receiver of the National Football League. He was originally signed by the Denver Broncos as an undrafted free agent in 1994 and played his entire 14-year career with the team. He played college football at Missouri Southern State.

Smith is the only undrafted free agent to have ever surpassed the 10,000-receiving-yard plateau. He is ranked 15th in NFL history in career receptions and 16th all time in receiving yards.

"I've been thinking about life after football for 32 years," said Smith, 36. "Football's not going to always be there, so I've got a ton of different business ventures."

Kenny Knox - PGA
Edward Kenneth Knox (born August 15, 1956) is an American professional golfer who has played on both the PGA Tour and the Nationwide Tour. Knox was born in Columbus, Georgia. He and his brother were introduced to the game of golf by their mother. He attended Florida State University in Tallahassee, Florida where he earned All-American honors as a member of the golf team. He graduated in 1978, turned professional that year, and joined the PGA Tour in 1982. Knox won three events during his career on the PGA Tour. His first win came at the 1986 Honda Classic; his next a year later at the Hardee's Golf Classic, and his most recent win came in 1990 at the Buick Southern Open. During this phase of his career, Knox had more than two dozen top-10 finishes and $1.6 million in earnings. His best result in a major was a 4th place finish at the 1991 PGA Championship. In his forties, he had difficulty maintaining his PGA Tour privileges and has had to play some on the Nationwide Tour.

Knox is known for his superior putting ability. He holds the PGA Tour record for fewest putts in a tournament (93) set at the 1989 MCI Classic. His weakness is in the tee-to-green ball-striking phase of the game. In 1996, Knox used his understanding of the short game to start TourGreens, an Atlanta based business that designs and installs tour-quality artificial putting greens. He is also active in golf course design and construction. He lives in Tallahassee.

Jim McMahon, NFL Quarterback
James Robert "Jim" McMahon (born August 21, 1959 in Jersey City, New Jersey) is a former NFL quarterback, playing collegiately at Brigham Young University and later in the professional ranks with the Chicago Bears. McMahon led the Chicago Bears to victory in Super Bowl XX.

A.C. Green, Jr., NBA Player
(born October 4, 1963 in Portland, Oregon) is a former NBA basketball player who has played in more consecutive games than any other player in NBA and ABA history (1,192). He has played for the Los Angeles Lakers, Phoenix Suns and Dallas Mavericks. He grew up in Portland, Oregon and attended Benson Polytechnic High School. He was inducted into the Oregon Sports Hall of Fame in 2003. He missed just 3 regular season games in his entire career playing 82 or more games in all but one season (79).

John Salley – NBA
John Thomas "Spider" Salley (born May 16, 1964) is a retired American professional basketball player in the NBA, actor and talk show host.
Salley was born in Brooklyn, New York. He is a 1988 graduate of Georgia Tech's College of Management and a member of the Omega Psi Phi Fraternity. Salley played high school ball at Canarsie High School in Brooklyn.

At 6'11", Salley played both power forward and center for the Detroit Pistons, Miami Heat, Toronto Raptors, Chicago Bulls, Panathinaikos BC and Los Angeles Lakers. He gained the nickname "Spider" for his in-your-face style of guarding his opponent. Salley is also the first player in NBA history to play on three different championship-winning franchises.

Dave Grayson - NFL
Dave Grayson (born 1939) played offensive and defensive halfback at the University of Oregon. He was drafted by the American Football League's Dallas Texans in 1961 and played four years with the Texans/Chiefs before joining the Oakland Raiders in 1965. Grayson held the AFL record for longest interception return for a td, 99 yd against the New York Titans in 1961. He had an interception off George Blanda in the Texans' classic 1962 double-overtime championship game victory over the defending AFL Champion Houston Oilers. Grayson was anAmerican Football League All-Star six times, in Dallas/Kansas City in 1962, 1963 and 1964, and in Oakland in 1965, 1966 and 1969. He made a 48-yard return with the opening kickoff against the Oilers in the 1967 AFL Championship Game. At Oakland in 1968, he led the American Football League with ten interceptions.

He is the all-time AFL leader in interceptions with 47, for a 20-yard return average and 5 tds, and he averaged 25.4 yards on 110 kickoff returns. He is a member of the American Football League All-Time Team.

Charles Barkley - NBA (Former Philly 76’ers and Phoenix Suns)
Charles Wade Barkley (born February 20, 1963) is a retired American professional basketball player. Nicknamed "Sir Charles," for his aggressive and outspoken demeanor, and "The Round Mound of Rebound," for his unusual build and talent as a player, Barkley established himself as one of the National Basketball Association's most dominating power forwards. He was selected to both the All-NBA First Team and All-NBA Second Team five times and once named to the All-NBA Third Team. He earned eleven NBA All-Star Game appearances and was named the All-Star MVP in 1991. In 1993, he was voted the league's Most Valuable Player and during the NBA's 50th anniversary, named one of the 50 Greatest Players in NBA History. He competed in the 1992 and 1996 Olympic games and won two gold medals as a member of the United States' Dream Team. In 2006, Barkley was inducted into the Naismith Memorial Basketball Hall of Fame.

Barkley was popular with the fans and media, and made the NBA's All-Interview Team for each of his last 13 seasons in the league.[1] He was frequently involved in on- and off-court fights and sometimes stirred national controversy, as in 1993 when he declared that sports figures should not be considered role models. Short for a power forward, he used tenacity and strength to become a dominant rebounder. He was a versatile player who could score, defend, rebound, and assist. In 2000, he retired as one of only four players in NBA history with 20,000 points, 10,000 rebounds and 4,000 assists.[2]

Dan Patorini, NFL Player
Dante "Dan" Anthony Pastorini (born May 26, 1949 in Sonora, California) was an American football quarterback who played for 12 seasons from 1971-1981, and 1983. He played for the Houston Oilers, Oakland Raiders, Los Angeles Rams, Philadelphia Eagles, all of the National Football League.

John Beck - NFL player
John Dalton Beck (born August 21, 1981 in Hayward, California) is an American football quarterback for the Miami Dolphins of the National Football League. He was drafted by the Dolphins in the second round of the 2007 NFL Draft. He played college football at Brigham Young University.

Lil' Bow Wow (Rapper/Actor)
Shad Gregory Moss (born March 9, 1987), better known by his stage name Bow Wow (formerly Lil' Bow Wow), is an American rapper, actor, and music producer. He released his debut album Beware of Dog at age 13, then under the stage name Lil' Bow Wow, which he carried until his 2003 album Unleashed, under simply Bow Wow. Two more albums followed, Wanted in 2005 and The Price of Fame in 2006. In 2007, he released the collaboration album Face Off with Omarion.[1]

Cedric Ceballos - NBA (Phoenix Suns)
Cedric Z. Ceballos (born August 2, 1969 in Maui, Hawaii) is an American former professional basketball player in the NBA. As a small forward, he played most notably for the Los Angeles Lakers and the Phoenix Suns, later finishing his NBA career with the Dallas Mavericks, Detroit Pistons, and Miami Heat. Ceballos attended college at Ventura College and later Cal State Fullerton.

His career highlights include leading the NBA in field goal percentage (57.6) in 1992-93, leading the Lakers in scoring in 1994-95 with a 21.7 average, and in 1995-96 with a 21.2 average, notching the Lakers' first 50-point game in over 20 years in 1995, and winning the NBA Slam Dunk Contest with a blindfolded dunk in 1992.

Baby Face (Singer/Producer)
Kenneth Brian "Babyface" Edmonds (born April 10, 1958 in Indianapolis, Indiana), is an American R&B and pop singer, songwriter, guitarist, keyboardist, record producer, film producer, and entrepreneur.
Edmonds, who is the fifth of six brothers (Kevon Edmonds also had a solo album), attended North Central High School and as a shy youth, wrote songs to express his emotions. Edmonds later played with funk megastar Bootsy Collins, who tagged him "Babyface" while he was still a teen, and the nickname has stuck with him throughout his life. He also played in the groups Manchild (which had a 1977 hit "Especially for You" with band member Daryl Simmons), then in the light-funk and R&B group The Deele (which also included Antonio "L.A." Reid, with whom he would later form a successful writing and producing partnership). One of his first major credits as a songwriter for outside artists came when he co-wrote the tune "Slow Jam" for the R&B band Midnight Star in 1983. The tune appeared on Midnight Star's double-platinum No Parking on the Dance Floor album, and while it never hit the charts, the song has since become a quiet storm staple and a semi-classic of the genre. Meanwhile, Babyface remained in The Deele until 1988, when both he and Reid left the group.

Regina King (Actress)
King was born in Los Angeles, California, the daughter of Gloria, a special education teacher, and Thomas King, an electrician. She attended Westchester High School (Los Angeles) and the University of Southern California.

King began her acting career in 1985 in the role of Marla Gibbs' daughter Brenda on the television series 227, a role she played until 1990. She went on to appear in the John Singleton films Boyz N the Hood, Poetic Justice and Higher Learning. In 1995, she was featured in the hit comedy Friday. In 1996, she played the love interest of Martin Lawrence in A Thin Line Between Love and Hate and was in a satirical comedy called Don't Be a Menace to South Central While Drinking Your Juice in the Hood Also in 1996, she gained notoriety starring in the blockbuster romantic comedy Jerry Maguire, with Tom Cruise and Cuba Gooding Jr. This film brought King mainstream recognition in her role as Cuba Gooding Jr.’s wife.

Soon thereafter she played Will Smith's wife in the spy thriller Enemy of the State, and was also featured in How Stella Got Her Groove Back and Disney's remake Mighty Joe Young. She continued playing feature roles in a variety of films, including Down to Earth, with Chris Rock, Daddy Day Care with Golden Globe winner Eddie Murphy, Legally Blonde 2: Red, White & Blonde with Reese Witherspoon and Sally Field, and A Cinderella Story, with Hilary Duff.

Most recently, she appeared in season 6 of the hit show 24 and the film This Christmas she played a mother and a faithful wife, daughter, and sister.

Venus & Serena Williams – WTA Tennis Stars
Venus Ebony Starr Williams (born June 17, 1980) is an American professional tennis player, former World No. 1, and the reigning Wimbledon singles champion. Williams has won the Olympic gold medal in women's tennis and 14 Grand Slam titles, including six singles (four at Wimbledon and two at the U.S. Open), six women's doubles, and two mixed doubles titles. She is the older sister of fellow former World No. 1 tennis player Serena Williams. The Williams sisters are noted for their power games.

Serena Jameka Williams, (born September 26, 1981) is an American former World No. 1 ranked female tennis player who has won eight Grand Slam singles titles and an Olympic gold medal in women's doubles.[2] She is currently the top ranked American female player. She is the last player, male or female, to have held all four Grand Slam singles titles simultaneously. In 2005, Tennis magazine ranked her as the 17th-best player of the preceding forty years. She is the younger sister of another former World No. 1 professional female tennis player, Venus Williams. Serena currently resides at Ballen Isles in Palm Beach Gardens, Florida.[citation needed

Ben Crenshaw – PGA
Crenshaw was born in Austin, Texas. He attended and played golf at Austin High School and the University of Texas before turning professional in 1973.

In 1973, Crenshaw became the second player in Tour history to win the first event of his career; this accomplishment was achieved earlier by Marty Fleckman (1967) and later repeated by Robert Gamez (1990) and Garrett Willis (2001). In 1984 he won The Masters, one of golf's four major championships. In the mid-1980s he suffered from Graves' disease, a disease of the thyroid, but he continued to accumulate victories, finishing with 19 on the PGA Tour, including a second Masters in 1995. Crenshaw won several further professional events outside the PGA Tour, including individual and team titles in the World Cup of Golf in 1988. He spent 80 weeks in the top-10 of the Official World Golf Rankings from 1987 to 1989.

Crenshaw is widely regarded as one of the best putters in golf history.

Randy White, NFL Player, Hall of Fame
Randy Lee White (born January 15, 1953 in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania) was an American football player. He attended the University of Maryland from 1971-1974, and played professionally for the Dallas Cowboys from 1975-1988. He is a member of both the college and professional football halls of fame.

Eugene Lockhart, NFL Player
born March 8, 1961 in Crockett, Texas) is a former American football linebacker who played for nine seasons in the National Football League from 1984 to 1992. He played college football for the University of Houston. During his career with the Dallas Cowboys, he was nicknamed "Eugene the hitting machine". In 1989, he led the NFC with 222 tackles, and did not make the Pro Bowl, but he did make the All-Pro team.

Everson Walls, NFL Player
Everson Collins Walls (born December 28, 1959 in Dallas, Texas) is a former American football cornerback in the NFL, having played for the Dallas Cowboys, the New York Giants, and the Cleveland Browns. During his 14 seasons, he was a four-time Pro Bowl selection. He was also a 3-time All-Pro selection. Walls won a Super Bowl with the Giants after the 1990 season.

Other YTB celebrities include:

David John Thomas - Actor (over 100 films)

Al Dave, NFL Player

Marion Barber, NFL Player

58 comments:

  1. Not at all. These people have seen the blessings of YTB and are successful entrepreuners even after their primary careers. Unfortunately she did not win the race, but YTB was even handling the travel for Senater Clinton in the primary.

    --Walt

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  2. Now that is funny. Do you know this as fact, or just hearsay?. Because all current president, and past have secret service security. Doubtful they would allow a NON ENTITY like YTB to handle anything. I'm quite sure the White House/Secret Service have their own travel agency for security clearance and it aint YTB. I would bet money on that fact.! I saw the BS about the daughters honeymoon booked with YTB, I'm 99.9% that was a blatant lie as well.

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  3. TL--the White House does have a travel office (remember Hillary and Travelgate) and yes she does have SS protection for being a former first lady and a candidate. You can be sure that YTB is not handling it. I believe CTA MD has handled campaign travel for some presidential campaigns and I know the owner of one agency that does handle it. It is complex stuff.

    I can say with 100% accuracy that YTB did not handle any of Hillary's Campaign movements

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  4. YTB is well known for ignoring their mantra 'if it ain't true, don't say it'.

    It's really more like 'say anything, if you think it will help recruit.'

    I stopped believing all the bragging when DR Bob was proven to be fictitious.

    All anyone has to do is look at some of those websites to know that the pitch is full of untruths and empty promises.

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  5. well, John, why would you even ask if it's true? YTB lies and is stupid so, of course they would set themselves up for lawsuits from all these celebs by falsely claiming their membership. Geez, where did your thinking cap fly off to?

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  6. Well one would have to FIND these websites to know now wouldn't they?

    SO I assume you are claiming that they are indeed RTAs or Reps. It seems a little far fetched to me. At least a lot of the names seem far fetched.

    And if this is true, why would YTB not be bragging about this as a corporation like they do with Lou Brock?

    Oh that's right, because the people posting this are INDEPENDENT and do not bind YTB to anything. So they can say all they want and if the people want to do something about it they can sue the individual Rep or RTA. Maybe if they are successful they will be able to get that lucrative income for life and those million dollar bonuses.

    Wow, come to think of it, YTB probably pays better than the NFL. Who would have thunk?

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  7. i can verify Mike Alstott was in YTB and was a director but another company paid him off to leave and help them launch a year ago or so..

    keep in mind www.theytb.com here you got all this info is not run or endorsed by YTB...

    maybe i should put up a site with some lies about traverus, then we could slam them for having a dumb rep.

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  8. "maybe i should put up a site with some lies about traverus, then we could slam them for having a dumb rep."

    Be happy to pick TraVerus apart if you have info. We do over on scam.com. The TraVerus reps tend to disappear when challenged on where their SOT #s are. Last we heard, daddyshark was in China and would be posting those #s when he got back. Ain't seen nuthin'. We're wondering if the Chinese have kept him...

    I think John would agree that we're equal opportunity when it comes to travel MLMs...

    But back to the topic. How are all these famous people making $$ with YTB if we can't find their websites to book travel on, or join their downlines? Wouldn't it be absolutely fabu to say that my sponsor was Venus?

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  9. Are you saying a loyal (and famous) YTB member would take MONEY to dump YTB for another MLM?
    Shocking.

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  10. I bet 99.9% of all RTAs would jump ship if another MLM offered them a cash incentive. Including Coach. He would just need a bit more than the average RTA to see the error of his ways.

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  11. Lil Bow Wow is in YTB? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

    YTB and TRAVEL: Rappin' dat Travel!

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  12. About Hillary Clinton - absolutely a bald faced lie.

    CTA in MD

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  13. Yeah I quite figured the HC thing was BS. Next thing you know Obama and McCain will be on the YTB trail as well, quick..someone start a game of telephone. LOL

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  14. What do you expect, it's been so long since the latest breaking news from YTB, they need to come up with some BS. Not very surprising.

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  15. YTBScam & Martha: A Great Mix!!!
    The Puke & Vomit Duo

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  16. http://www.acgreen.com/default.aspx?pageid=4906

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  17. I want to see the website for Hilary Clinton's campaign. Why do I care if these people are in YTB anyway? Its merely a "come-on" to get others to join. Otherwise why would you publically "boast" who your client/reps are. I mean I handle some pretty famouse people too, but I'm not shouting to my other clients/competition about it.

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  18. Interesting site.

    ytbcelebs.com

    OleScorekeeper

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  19. What no OJ Simpson? He'd fit in with the Yale/Jail crew. He could probably use the money too. He could get a big following of fellow cretons to join I'm sure, and then he could pay the money he owes those families. Seems like a win-win. You have another old football celeb, he could make money.

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  20. TravelLisa said, "Why do I care if these people are in YTB anyway?"

    John said, "Can anyone provide the links to the RTA sites?"

    TL, go find something else to do. This one's not for you. ;>)

    OleScorekeeper

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  21. I bet that YTB GAVE those folks their sites just so they could use their names. I'll admit to not being a pro sport fan so I have really never heard of any of them except OJ Simpson of course.

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  22. Ole, the interesting site you quoted is the one John got this info from.
    Since you have an in at HQ and sit on the right hand of coach, tell us more about these members. Are they all directors? Do they hold YTB stock? Have they taken the RTA training? How many travel sale $$$ are attributed to their sites? Are they award winning referring travel agents like Candi or just has been jocks looking for endorsement dollars. Really - who is their sponsoring upline? Do you have any quotable material that they have said about YTB? If you don't have the answers maybe Mixed-up does? I would like to know these things and you are the to go guy with YTB insider info.

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  23. karla said..."I bet that YTB GAVE those folks their sites just so they could use their names."

    What will you bet and how much? Your statement means nothing unless you can stand behind it.

    OleScorekeeper

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  24. eddie said, "I would like to know these things and you are the to go guy with YTB insider info."

    Oh Edward, you give the OleScorekeeper way too much credit for having an "in at HQ". I'm just a little ole humble referring travel agent. I suggest you call HQ yourself to get the answers. Tell them your name is Edward The Reservationist. I'm sure they know who you are and will get Coach on the line pronto. ;>)

    OleScorekeeper

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  25. an anti-ytb person sent me to this site for why not to join ytb. which i wouldn't. but can't say i'm impressed with the whiney and low-class and emotionally stressed out sounding comments from the tta's either. i want no part of either group here since they both sound like they're going down. bye, bye.

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  26. eddie said..."Ole, the interesting site you quoted is the one John got this info from."

    Wrong again Sherlcok.

    OleScorekeeper

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  27. It must be Mixed up who is the insider, not you Ole. sorry.

    I agree with Karla. I think these YTB sites are complimentary because of the 'fame' issue. And, no one can say I'm wrong.

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  28. You are right Ole. That is not the same site. And, no it's not a very interesting one. Most of the click heres are 'page cannot be displayed' or have no info at all.
    You may consider them YTB celebs but there is no proof other than a YTB site that they are members at all. And, as I said, YTB no doubt gave them/or paid them to use their names/photos on the sites to attempt to show credibility. I'm sure it works for YTB but not for me.
    Have a good weekend.

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  29. For the anti-ytb/anti-tta person above.

    You are? And we give a shit why?

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  30. "an anti-ytb person sent me to this site for why not to join ytb . . . bye, bye"

    Is that you, Rod?

    Is this an anti-YTB day for you?

    Is it a "I want the TTAs to love me" day?

    Or is a "I'll rejoin YTB if they only tell me that they really, really like me" day?

    martha -

    Have a good night last night?

    Are you back in the saddle today at BOOZE TRAVEL?

    Cannot confirm all of the celebrities.

    But I have met Robert Pack and Acie Green.

    Proud RTAs with YTB.

    And they paid the (very reasonable) full price with YTB.

    YTB and TRAVEL: A Great Mix!

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  31. Don't believe you Mixed.

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  32. Well I'm sure Rod was paid to promote YTB in some sort. Obviously he isn't the brightest person in the world and lost alot of money recently. Wonder if YTB will attempt to recruit Mr. Wright. It's obvious that he fits into their plan.

    "Hedge-fund boss bilked big-name Broncos

    May 25, 2008 8:28 PM

    Posted by ESPN.com's Bill Williamson

    The jailhouse suicide of convicted hedge-fund boss Kirk Wright is being noticed in Denver.

    Wright's case in Atlanta was familiar in the Rocky Mountains because Wright was guilty of bilking key Broncos out of money. The players affected by Wright included former Broncos' stars Steve Atwater, Terrell Davis and receiver Rod Smith, who recently went on the reserve/retired list."

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  33. Alstott not doing so well either...
    looks like a great group of guys to be in YTB...LOL

    "JustLookItUp.com, a commercial search engine co-founded and personally marketed by Tampa Bay Buccaneers legend Mike "A-Train" Alstott, is showing signs of financial distress."

    Launched two years ago by Alstott and Clearwater-based Bottom Line Productions, JustLookItUp.com lets consumers search by name or topic for the Web sites of Tampa Bay area businesses. A print version of the database, JustWebsites, was supposed to be mailed to 1-million local households. Alstott and Bottom Line CEO Mike Harter claimed the service would help the bay area economy by encouraging consumers to buy local."

    "Last week, three former employees of Bottom Line Productions sued Alstott, Harter and other project backers for allegedly bouncing multiple paychecks. The plaintiffs include the company's former general manager and comptroller."

    "In February, a Pinellas County court gave Bottom Line's landlord permission to take over its 4,200-square-foot premises due to nonpayment of rent. Bottom Line did not respond to the lawsuit."

    "Williams said Bottom Line ultimately printed just 100,000 directories because $1-million in pledged investments fell through at the last moment.

    She also criticized the "little brats" who sued Harter, investor Alstott and others last week over unpaid wages. "They were on board until a bump in the road, and when the bump in the road came, they all scattered," Williams said. "These kids don't understand how business works. … They just want to be angry."

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  34. Steve Atwater part of the same scheme that lost others millions of dollars.

    Guess Mr. Wright won't be joining since he is no longer alive, as of last month.

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  35. End of a Bonecrusher interview about his career...lol
    Another minister...imagine that.Nothing like talking about kids and throwing your YTB pitch into it.

    (SM) What else are you involved in?
    (BS) I also mentor adults as well in establishing home based businesses with travel and vacation. I am a referring travel agent with YTB-YourTravelBiz. I have over 2000 agents in my organization and want to expand in a city near you! I think he took to many punches to the head.

    (SM) After your boxing career I know you became an ordained minister and started working with youth. You started the “Champion For Kids” organization, what is it?
    (BS) It was started to help raise funds and provide scholarships for high school students. I mentor kids about making good choices in life.

    (SM) And finally “Bonecrusher” is there anything you would like to tell your fans out there?
    (BS) Just to visit www.championforkids.org or www.bonecrushertravel.com to see what I am doing.

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  36. Appears there is a little more interest in today's topic. Here's the score so far. Only 13 posters. All anon's count as 1.

    OleScore - 11
    Anon - 6
    eddie - 5
    Puke - 5
    TL - 4
    John - 2
    Walter - 1
    Ann - 1
    CTA - 1
    Steve - 1
    Karla - 1
    Mix - 1
    Vomit - 1

    OleScorekeeper

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  37. Waldo (ytbscam) -

    You don't get it.

    Go away.

    You are like the guy that stayed at the Holiday Inn Express.

    Thinks he is relevant.

    No relevance whatsoever.

    Not a TTA.

    Not in YTB or any other MLM.

    We don't care about what you think.

    No skin in the game.

    A total bystander.

    Afraid to jump in the pool.

    Like the nerd guy crashing the "Girls Night Out" party.

    Go away.

    YTB and TRAVEL: A Great Mix!

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  38. Hey Doogie,

    You aren't a "Travel Agent" or a "Travel Pro". "Travel Scam Artist"...YES.

    You refer people to websites. I book travel on websites, guess that makes me a better "Travel Pro",.than you will ever think of becoming.

    So when are you going to start selling those suntan beds? That the next great start up business with YTB? Suntan beds and flowers!?!

    FAKE TANS and TRAVEL: A Bad Mix!

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  39. Just exactly why is Scam's opinion not relevant?. He'd be your target client, he books online. He has the right to say what he wants. Just because hes not a TTA doesn't mean he doesn't feel that MLM's and travel are a bad mix.

    Everyone has the right to their opinion. You Mix..seem to think your opinion and constant berating everyone else on the blog means diddley squat. All you do is make fun of others and post nothing worth while.

    How long have you been in the industry? How much training do you have? How much in TRAVEL COMMISSIONS have you sold this year? How many trips have you personally booked? Then we'll decide whos relevant and who's not.

    MLM's & Travel: I'm sitting on my ass while you do the work, your probably paying more, you'll get no service from me and I'm collecting the check. Thank you come again! -- Bad mix, you decide

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  40. I have used a TTA twice in my lifetime and I have had excellent service. I have booked online more times than Doogie has been to the tanning booths. Guess what I would never book with YTB. I have used Orbitz, Travelocity and Expedia. And never had a problem.

    And I'm not Dougs target because, he doesn't sell travel. He sells websites. So Doug, once again I'm calling you out...why did you fail at YTB? You preach alot, and you had to be given "director", because you couldn't do it yourself? Thought it was easy to do?

    For someone who never comes to this website, Mixer sure hangs out here alot. Go back to your censored crap.

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  41. I'm also neutral here. I love watching a good fight between adult children tho! Yes, everyone's convinced they're so happy and so professional and so much better than each other. What a country! LOL..... more popcorn anyone?

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  42. I've never quite understood why people think that just because someone is famous and/or successful in a celebrity sort of way - that they have ANY intelligence when it comes to politics or finacial advise!

    Let me see - someone who knows how to work out and beat people up - yeah that's it - they are the one to show me the way to instant wealth!

    Please!!!

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  43. TL said -

    "He has the right to say what he wants."

    And I have the right to say he is irrelevent.

    I will listen to you, TL (and you wonderful co-heart Martha of Booze Travel)because you are in the industry.

    I disagree with you on most things having to do with YTB.

    But I will listen to you.

    I respond to your angst about YTB.

    Waldo . . . no.

    YTB and TRAVEL: A Great Mix!

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  44. Hey Doogie,

    "Typically while on vacation, you can’t keep me away from the computer and the internet, but I think that’s going to change this go around. I’ve got a couple of good books that I’ve wanted to read, which I should have a chance to complete."

    Guess you failed again. Looks like you have plenty of time on the computer. You'd think you would be spending some time with your family, but I guess there isn't much to do at the local Motel 6 eh?
    Either that or you couldn't find a good picture book.

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  45. ytbscam thinks Doug is Mix. Poor confused feller.

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  46. Dear YTB and TRAVEL: I can't believe you told someone to leave this blog. Is it yours? I don't think so. You are too much of a coward to even identify yourself or anything. You claim this and you claim that without any form of verification. You post about 30 times per day which means you have nothing going on in your life. I think you are the same person as Olecrotchkeeper. I really do. You are both huge assholes on here and full of YTB bullshit knowledge.

    To make something clear to you, I don't drink. I never drink. I hate the taste of it. I don't do drugs either. I used to smoke marijuana but gave it up in my late 20's. Want to hold that against me? YTB is my drug because idiots like you give me a rush. You are nothing more than a little polecat hiding behind your computer. I dare you to identify yourself. You won't because you are a coward. You are the type of person I detest. You can insult, degrade, and demand answers yet never give any in return. You're also about as much a Christian as Osama Bin Laden. He is in hiding because he's a coward also.

    I would dare you to say anything to my face, but you are too much of a chicken shit to do it. You could even do it by email, but then you would have to identify some area of yourself so that would disqualify you also. You deserve YTB and YTB deserves you.

    You need to get a sense of humor and roll with the punches instead of being some huge pussy! Yes, I called you a pussy! I mean it too.

    YTB and TRAVEL: Business of Losers!

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  47. take a chill pill then martha. you're letting a "pussy" get you way too upset. and your humor needs to be more sophisticated and funny instead of what bill cosby refers to as the "cheap potty mouth" kind. i've really not ever found you to be in a good mood on here. just always pissed off and abrasive. and sorry, but i also thought you were usually posting while drunk.

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  48. Anonymous said...take a chill pill then martha. you're letting a "pussy" get you way too upset. and your humor needs to be more sophisticated and funny instead of what bill cosby refers to as the "cheap potty mouth" kind. i've really not ever found you to be in a good mood on here. just always pissed off and abrasive. and sorry, but i also thought you were usually posting while drunk.

    Let me take a stab in the dark at this. You are a YTB Coach is Greater than Thou follower. Am I right? Bill Cosby is now about as popular as George W. Bush. There is a totally new era of humor and sorry if a potty mouth offends you. Do you ever watch movies, TV, read a novel, or go see a comedy show? If you do, then you're offended a lot. Why should I be sophisticated? I'm dealing with mostly YTB people that have no scruples or morals.

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  49. no, your stab in the dark is wrong. i'm not a blind ytb follower. i used to be a TA and am thinking about going back. and no, i'm not easily offended at all. and there's plenty of good books and movies to choose from out there. i just finally said something since ALL your posts are very sour and vulgar. maybe i should have used "intelligent" instead of "sophisticated" regarding your humor. i think all the vulgarity makes you sound drunk or not so smart. sorry....

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  50. Wonderful, delightful Martha -

    It is something to watch when little ol' YTB gets you so worked up.

    Note to Martha's friends:

    Keep a close eye on her.

    And I love how you complain about my anonymity.

    When no one knows who you are except "Martha".

    What a hoot.

    Earlier this week you said I post 400 times a day.

    How it's down to 30 times a day.

    Actually, prior to this point, I am tied with you for the week.

    The pot calling the kettle black.

    You do a remarkable job of making a fool out of yourself on this blog.

    I'm sure the TTAs are really impressed with how you represent their ranks.

    Boy, I am.

    Keep posting, Martha.

    We all learn from you.

    YTB and TRAVEL: A Great Mix!

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  51. Personally, I don't trust the emotional maturity of a lot of the TTA's on here - including Martha - to want them to know who I am. I don't have the hateful energy they have to fight them back with!

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  52. YTB and TRAVEL: A huge jerk!: I think you should go back and count the posts since the beginning of the month. You've way outposted me by far.

    For being anonymous, I'm not. You see that blue name of mine? If you click on that, you'll see my name, where I live, and what I do for a living. You? Nothing as usual because you're a coward. I don't see why you can't at least come clean about something, anything. Ashamed? I would be if I were you.

    Here is one guarantee I'll make you. I sold more in travel in the past 2 months than you've sold since YTB started. I will also guarantee you that I made more money than you have with YTB since you joined. I can provide proof but you will have to identify yourself and so the subject is up to you.

    YTB and TRAVEL: Hiding under the table again!

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