NOTE: Of course after this posted, the original post was deleted, so the link is no good. Apparently, she does not stand by her words, but that is OK because what you see below is the complete content of the original post.
Duck! Look out! Rogue RTAs are on the loose again. I guess EAB is busy "dating" up a storm in Honolulu and they needed a replacement! Ladies and gents, I give you Regina Osei. I know she reads this blog so perhaps she may shun her anonymous moniker and come clean. I was reading her blog a few days ago and saw a headline that surprised me. YTB Travel Merges With American Destinations. How the hell could I have missed that one? Even worse, how could YTB have missed the opportunity to issue a press release. Well, after a quick phone call, I discovered that her post is a lie. More on that in a bit, but for now, here is what she has falsely claimed:
YTB Travel Merges With American Destinations The YTB Travel Network , has again edged out the competition by merging with 27 year old experienced, professional tour operator, American Destinations. American Destinations specializes in 'educational group travel' throughout North America, and it has a similar business model to YTB Travel, which makes for a fantastic union. This merger between YTB Travel and American Destinations is also great news for YTB Travel clients and RTAs (Referring Travel Agents) because it allows YTB Travel to offer even greater tour and group packages. Click here for more information about American Destinations.Well no doubt Regina is more interested in recruiting people on her own Power Team. That alone seems to be reason to allow truth and honesty to fall by the wayside. I would expect more from someone who, in her own biography on her blog, claims to be a "wife, mother, minister, businesswoman, mentor, and coach." Just picture that, a minister and spreading mis-truths all for the sake of the almighty dollar.
Well, if you check out American Destinations, Inc. you will see that they have not been acquired or merged. They are merely one of the "thousands" of vendors that have made a decision to work with YTB. I called and spoke a representative of ADI and they categorically denied any relationship with YTB other than paying them a finders fee for any referrals. Additionally, they have been doing business with YTB for several years. My contact also added, "if you can call the amount of referrals 'business'" Here is their policy on YTB:
1.) Referral Commissions: As an RTA with YTB you can earn referral commissions on groups that you refer to us. In most cases, this is a one time referral commission. Example: You visit or call South Middle School. The 8th grade class is planning a tour to Washington, DC. You call ADI with South Middle School's contact information and we proceed with the selling process from this point. If the group travels with us, you will receive a referral commission. 2.) ADI Travel Consultant: You have the opportunity to earn residual income and build a lifetime business. ADI has groups that have traveled with us for up to 10, 15, 20+ years. An information packet is available that is designed to teach you how to represent ADI and effectively market student and adult group tours that will position you for tremendous growth in the travel industry; therefore, helping you to realize substantial residual income. We feel that when properly trained to sell group travel, you will be more confident to approach group leaders. The more confident you are the more tours you will sell; therefore, the more financial success you will realize! ADI wants to help you build a relationship with your clients to ensure repeat business. We encourage you to take full advantage of our vast knowledge and great experience in the group tour industry by purchasing our American Destinations, Inc. Travel Consultant Training Packet for a one-time investment of $199.00. We are so confident that you will benefit from thi s information that after you sell three overnight tours (minimum of thirty passengers per departure) ADI will refund your investment plus include a bonus of $199.00! You will double your investment! Example I: South Middle School calls ADI directly and wants to do another trip with us. Since you are a registered ADI Travel Consultant and South Middle School is one of your past accounts, we will notify you of the Trip Order so you can follow up with the group leader and therefore, receive the commission if they travel. Example II: Someone from South Middle School knows a teacher planning a trip at Rosemont High School. He/she encourages him/her to call American Destinations, Inc. for a tour proposal. Since the referral came from one of your accounts, you will be contacted immediately to follow up with the group leader at Rosemont High School to begin a relationship with him/her. At the completion of the tour, you will receive the commission for this account. Please remember, no matter which opportunity you choose, travel proposals are FREE OF CHARGE. A member of our staff (referred to as an ADI Account Manager) will be assigned to you to assist you as much as possible. Also, please ask about "in person" training seminars in your area for you and your team. Again, we are very excited to help you grow your business. Do not hesitate! Call ADI now (800-369-4986) and begin to build a group travel business that will last a LIFETIME! To become an ADI Travel Consultant, please email or call with the following information: * RTA Name * Business Name * YTB ID# * Mailing Address * Home/Business/Cell Phone Numbers * Fax Number * E-Mail Address * Polo Shirt Size (Please mail check or money order to American Destinations, Inc., PO Box 2228, Clarksburg, WV 26302) Note - Services NOT Provided By ADI: * Motorcoach Charters: ADI does NOT provide services for motorcoach only charters.So, nothing here. Old news. More misinformation that is being propagated by a rogue wife, mother, minister, businesswoman, mentor, and coach. Not sure if the real Coach would be proud or ashamed. Maybe she will make the correction; but then again that might hurt the recruitment effort.
JOhn,
ReplyDeleteA day late and a dollar short, she pulled the blog post yesterday.
Fish Fish Fish Fish Fish,
Nope nothing yet, papi
I love that John is criticizing someone for blogposting misinformation. Thats a good one.
ReplyDeleteYes, just this week we have Hickory and Cars-both posts loaded with either speculation or misinfo.
ReplyDeleteOF course she pulled it. There was not a shade of truth to it. But that's OK because I figured she might do that..hence the copy of the post in it's entirety.
ReplyDeleteThere is a major difference between speculation am outright lying. Had I said YTB files for bankruptcy as Coach flies to Mexico in the jet. That would be a lie similar to Regina's YTB Merges with ADI. But saying that I don't think the Cars program is working...that is speculation..see.
AS to Hickory. When you get a clue, come talk to me. The deal may never go through, but what you have read here is 100% factual about that. If not, why did Regina not pull it from her blog? (Incidentally, which was well after I broke the news here)
How is this true from your cars post???
ReplyDeleteAfter some investigation it became it was apparent that the program was run through one dealership in Wood River, IL. And only on a few brands. And only when it was picked up at the dealership. SO, is this now such a good deal for the California customer?
This was posted by you AFTER it was announced that there was a dealership on board in Florida.
So, either you LIED or just didn't know. I am willing to bet that you deliberately left out the info as with all the investigating that you do, there is NO WAY you could not have known.
When Regina realized that she was wrong, for whatever reason she found out, she pulled the post. I think she should make a post calling attention to her mistake, but YOU should also.
You can't hold people to standards that you, yourself don't follow
Your post was from early this morning and as of 11:30 pm eastern last night, her post was not on her blog. So did you just lie again? Or are you misinformed again? I will let you pick
ReplyDeleteReginna Ossi is the same wife, mother, minister, whatever, who stated on her blog last winter that she had gone on a Sandals fam to take advantage of the free trip. While she was there she overheard some travel agents talking about how hard they work for their clients. She said something like " I just don't want any part of that. I just want to enjoy the TA perks without doing the work." So I am not at all surprised by what you discovered. Maybe she paid $495 to become a minister as well.
ReplyDeleteHere is the actual comment that was on her blog.
ReplyDelete"And though I do respect the jobs that travel agents do, honestly, I don't want to do what they do. I spent several days recently at the Sandals resorts with several travel agents, and to listen to them talk about their "jobs", I'm just not interested in that for my family. The levels of travel booking that I do for my clients works for me and for them. I enjoy booking group cruises, etc. and I do so, but I wouldn't even want to do that fulltime. I definitely do not want to search for and write airfare tickets, etc. Plus, just earning money via my websites (we have about 7 that produce additional streams of income) while I am sleeping is phenomenal. Lastly, because I also am very engaged in the network marketing side of the business, the perks (bonuses, etc.) more than compensate for my not being a professional travel agent. And yes, I do enjoy being able to work both sides of the business AND enjoy the best of the travel industry perks and benefits as well. I think we have the best of both worlds."
Clearly shows that while she is perfectly happy to refer to herself as a travel agent and take advantage of a fam, she has ZERO interest in doing any of the work involved. This is EXACTLY why travel and mlm is a bad mix. Lazy people like this polluting the industry. Who the hell wants to use a "travel agent" who doesn't want to work?
Ummm, Did you read her post or just make some stuff up there.
ReplyDeleteYou use words like "clearly shows that while she is perfectly happy to refer to herself as a travel agent"....not only in your quoted post from her did she not even at all refer to herself as a travel agent, she said "And though I do respect the jobs that travel agents do, honestly, I don't want to do what they do"
She made a point that she is happy just servicing a handful of clients and that she doesn't want to work that hard. How does that poison the entire industry?
Please explain that to me.
You know the more and more I read these posts and comments from TTAs I think what might be hurting your industry is the inability to help your customers because you do not know how to read. Maybe some basic comprehension classes will help.
ReplyDeleteGo read her blog. She repeated refers to herself as a travel agent.
ReplyDeleteI will simply replying to Anons post where he quoted her and then misquoted her all in the same sentence.
ReplyDeleteI don't think Regina is much different from any of the other YTB bloggers in that the spin must be positive and portray YTB as forward looking and exclusive. This hype is a recruiting tactic. So what if some of the hype is not
ReplyDeletetrue? It's similar to the hype the supposed investment 'expert' touted about YTB stock. They are YTB so damn the reality, spin quickly and sell those websites. Except for a tiny minority, it's NOT about selling travel, it;s about selling websites.
So, anon told me to go read her blog because she "repeated refers to herself as a travel agent" Well, on her profile, and the last 4 weeks of blog posts and comments by her, NOWHERE does she call herself a travel agent.
ReplyDeleteContinued TTA poor reading comprehension.
Let me suggest this website...
http://www.rhlschool.com/reading.htm
It will help you understand
Since only bona fide Travel Agents are supposed to be able to "enjoy the best of the travel industry perks and benefits as well", she implies that she is a bona fide Travel Agent, even if she has never said it.
ReplyDeleteOf course, I blame the suppliers for allowing the RTAs to take advantage of FAM trips more than I blame the MLM members themselves.
Um, you may want to take your own advice. This is from her blog. In this one she refers to herself as a "travel professional". Ya right. And I'm the Pope!
ReplyDelete"Recently I booked a Sandals vacation for 5 days/4 nights for one of my clients for her honeymoon. We got a fairly good deal, but the cost of their vacation still topped $2000. A few weeks ago, travel agents were offered a FAM (Familiarization) trip to different Sandals resorts. That was when I realized just how incredible being an RTA really is. My 5 day/4 night Sandals vacation including airfare, transfers, meals, drinks, gratuities and water sports cost me a total of $394. In addition, being a travel professional affords me the opportunity to request from hotel, car rental and other vendors “travel agent” rates. These rates can be discounted up to 80% off retail."
"Continued TTA poor reading comprehension."
ReplyDeleteYTB can not read either LOL!
Continued YTB stupidity and deflection. Oh, and let's not forget all the felons working for YTB. From Jail to Sales......
I can't help but notice the "NOTE" at the top of the post. I was on REgina's blog late last night and that post was already removed. So, is John lieing again?
ReplyDeleteYou guys are all so funny.....The anon poster was replying to another poster who said that she referred to herself specifically as a "travel agent" when she does not, it was simply rebutting the use of specific words, IMO
"When Regina realized that she was wrong, for whatever reason she found out, she pulled the post. I think she should make a post calling attention to her mistake, but YOU should also."
ReplyDeleteAnd John states that right up front.... He obviously looked, read her post, copied it and then posted his - apparently sometime inthe process Regina cancelled... I THINK IT'S FARE TO SPECULATE THAT AS JOHN CALLED AMERICAN DESTINATIONS FOR CONFIRMATION THEY CALLED YTB AND THUS REGINA WAS WARNED TO PULL HER INAPPROPRIATE INFORMATION.
You use words like "clearly shows that while she is perfectly happy to refer to herself as a travel agent"....not only in your quoted post from her did she not even at all refer to herself as a travel agent, she said "And though I do respect the jobs that travel agents do, honestly, I don't want to do what they do"
She must present herself as a Travel Agent for Sandals to give her a FAM. But I'm sure someone here will out her to Sandals now.
I think that's all pretty clear!
ReplyDeleteInteresting that American Destinations only pays a "referral fee" - I wonder how much that is?
John said he read the blog a 'few days ago'. Someone posted this on Dougs blog yesterday:
ReplyDeleteDoug:
do you know anything about this?
http://aboutytb.blogspot.com/2008/04/ytb-travel-merges-with-american.html
How could this slip under JF's radar?
David
Posted by Anonymous | Thursday, April 24, 2008
so it was there some time yesterday, no? And if the blog was removed 'late last night'. Regina got tipped off that she'd stretched the truth but not before John was able to save it for us. Have you folks ever heard of time zones? Late last night could be early am somewhere else.
just my 2 cents
Who gives a RTAs (oops meant RATs) ass whenit was pulled. He already says he does these posts in advance--kinda explains the cars thing too.
ReplyDeleteBut apparently she only pulled it when she was exposed---sound familiar...like Earl the prostitute hunting RTA from the farm.....
Maybe YTB is trying to control their RATS (oops meant RTAs) and not doign a great job.
But she obviously put that up with no verification or attemtpt at verification stictly to drive recruits. SHe is really the poster child of why the TTAs dislike the MLM wannabes. She proves that she is only in it for the recruiting and the perks and the little money she earns.
Honestly, a disgrace even for YTB--at least Doug appears to have some morals and stuicks ny his words
This minister is a coward and does not have the sense of conviction.
Is this clear enough for all of you?
ReplyDeletehttp://www.americandestinations.com
Check out their own website it is now called a ADI/YTB Consultants all over their webpage.
Always look to the source.
John has already posted the ADI/YTB info, but thanks for trying to spin.
ReplyDeleteFunny, I DID go to the source for my information. The website is branded for ADI and yes it has a page dedicated to YTB RTAs with information on how the program works.
ReplyDeleteSO how is this a merger? Where do you see the website "is now called ADI/YTB"? Did you OD on the kool-aid this morning? Maybe just a little?
There is a page that says ADI/YTB Consultants Click here. Certainly not the entire site.
And I also have to wonder why a TO would put that information on a publicly accessible site to begin with, but hey, they lined up and waited in a line of "thousands" to meet with YTB to do business with them, so....
As usual, the YTBers are trying to deflect the conversation to pick on the posters, rather than addressing the issue at hand. The issue is that your minister, mother, "travel professional" posted that YTB had merged with another company when it was COMPLETELY untrue. It was the same as saying that if I book a trip for a client with GOGO, that my company had merged with GOGO. Talk about misleading. Half her blog is covered with bible quotes! I would like to hear Mrs Prince Ossi explain why she put it there in the first place.
ReplyDeleteI would love to hear what Sandals things about her taking advantage of their fam.
John, you said A Wife, Mother, Minister, Businesswoman, Mentor, and Coach Lies! I give you Regina Osei. I know she reads this blog so perhaps she may shun her anonymous moniker and come clean. I was reading her blog a few days ago and saw a headline that surprised me. YTB Travel Merges With American Destinations. How the hell could I have missed that one? Even worse, how could YTB have missed the opportunity to issue a press release. Well, after a quick phone call, I discovered that her post is a lie. More on that in a bit, but for now, here is what she has falsely claimed:
ReplyDeleteYTB Travel Merges With American Destinations The YTB Travel Network , has again edged out the competition by merging with 27 year old experienced, professional tour operator, American Destinations. American Destinations specializes in 'educational group travel' throughout North America, and it has a similar business model to YTB Travel, which makes for a fantastic union. This merger between YTB Travel and American Destinations is also great news for YTB Travel clients and RTAs (Referring Travel Agents) because it allows YTB Travel to offer even greater tour and group packages. Click here for more information about American Destinations.
This is not a lie. It's true. YTB acquired American Destinations, Inc. The official announcement was made at the Richmond VA Travel Show on Friday, April 19, 2008.
If what you say is true, this would be John's BIGGEST blunder ever...and for him to say, "I discovered that her post is a lie."One wonders how he will spin it? I really would hate to see him loose face on this one since he appears to have "bet the farm". It's probably all some big misunderstanding.
ReplyDeleteOleScorekeeper
If you and Regina don't know if it's true or not then how would John? i saw they were at your training April 18 - 19, which I guess you did not attend, but saw no announcement of any purchase.
ReplyDeletedefamation (of character) n. the act of making untrue statements about another which damages his/her reputation. If the defamatory statement is printed or broadcast over the media it is libel and, if only oral, it is slander. Public figures, including officeholders and candidates have to show that the defamation was made with malicious intent and was not just fair comment. Damages for slander may be limited to actual (special) damages unless there is malice. Some statements such as an accusation of having committed a crime, having a feared disease, or being unable to perform one's occupation are called libel per se or slander and can more easily lead to large money awards in court and even punitive damage recovery by the person harmed. Most states provide for a demand for a printed retraction of defamation and only allow a lawsuit if there is no such admission of error.
ReplyDeletelibel 1) n. to publish in print (including pictures), writing or broadcast through radio, television or film, an untruth about another which will do harm to that person or his/her reputation, by tending to bring the target into ridicule, hatred, scorn or contempt of others. Libel is the written or broadcast form of defamation, distinguished from slander which is oral defamation. It is a tort (civil wrong) making the person or entity (like a newspaper, magazine or political organization) open to a lawsuit for damages by the person who can prove the statement about him/her was a lie. Publication need only be to one person, but it must be a statement which claims to be fact, and is not clearly identified as an opinion. While it is sometimes said that the person making the libelous statement must have been intentional and malicious, actually it need only be obvious that the statement would do harm and is untrue. Proof of malice, however, does allow a party defamed to sue for "general damages" for damage to reputation, while an inadvertent libel limits the damages to actual harm (such as loss of business) called "special damages." "Libel per se" involves statements so vicious that malice is assumed and does not require a proof of intent to get an award of general damages. Libel against the reputation of a person who has died will allow surviving members of the family to bring an action for damages. Most states provide for a party defamed by a periodical to demand a published retraction. If the correction is made, then there is no right to file a lawsuit.
This might be a good time for a retraction, just in case.
It's sad to see JF living his life through that of a child giving the finger at the very top of this thread presumably intended for Regina Osei. I guess that's how he see's himself, a imature and childish dolt. As was said, a good time for a retraction and the delineation
ReplyDeleteof "A Wife, Mother, Minister, Businesswoman, Mentor, and Coach Lies!"
If you want a retraction, show me some proof that they merged. ADI does not know about it.
ReplyDeleteAm I to take Rod's word? I mean he is not part of YTB this week I believe, or was that last week?
If I am so wrong, why did Regina pull it from her blog?
Thanks for the definitions--you could have just copied it from your other comment. Apparently when I hit a nerve people scream libel and defamation of character. And by the way, a blog is not a periodical.
So, till there is some news beyond Rod and multiple anonymous comments--the post stays as is.
I called ADI a few minutes ago - they laughed!!!
ReplyDeleteJohn said...
ReplyDeleteIf you want a retraction, show me some proof that they merged. ADI does not know about it.
Am I to take Rod's word? I mean he is not part of YTB this week I believe, or was that last week?
If I am so wrong, why did Regina pull it from her blog?
Thanks for the definitions--you could have just copied it from your other comment. Apparently when I hit a nerve people scream libel and defamation of character. And by the way, a blog is not a periodical.
So, till there is some news beyond Rod and multiple anonymous comments--the post stays as is.
John, I don't know why YTB has not published a release on the acquistion, but I know it is a done deal. How do I know. I heard it announced (unofficially) from the CEO of ADI when he, representing ADI, and I were in Dallas last month at the YTB travel show.
ADI CEO, Curtis Edwards, was the guest travel company for the 4/24/08 Monday night travel training call. The moderator of the call made the announcement that YTB acquired ADI. Here is a file to download to prove it:
http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=24DBC90009B85AFD
John,
They laughed because it's causing a lot of interest.
John, you should put a search tag on your blog for "idiot". If this blog turned into a reality tv show it would be cancelled due to it's immaturity. If I want this crap I'd work as referee in the local childhood sandbox. Garbage in - garbage out. As the old saying goes "if you don't like it, change the channel", how can you - it's stupidity at it's finest. It's better than "Jackass" and you're the leader.
ReplyDeleteThese definitions were written before there were blogs. A blog is a dissemination of information to the general public. If used for scandalous purposes, as is yours, it is subject to libel laws, but on a federal, not state level.
ReplyDeleteHey thanks for the opinion Johnnie Cochran. I believe your Cocaine White Bentley is waiting!
ReplyDeleteCan someone put this up on the bolg? I can't seem to download it.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=24DBC90009B85AFD
Go ahead. Make jokes. I'm trying to help you.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.dba-oracle.com/oracle_news/2005_9_1_liable_blog_comments.htm
http://defamation-libel.blogspot.com/
ReplyDeletehttp://technology.solveyourproblem.com/bloggers-guide/blogging-libel-slander.shtml
ReplyDeleteAnonymous said...
ReplyDeleteCan someone put this up on the bolg? I can't seem to download it.
http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=24DBC90009B85AFD
Anon,
Here is the link to a file of the recorded conversation between YTB and ADI announcing the acquisition of ADI by YTB.
Link:
http://download.yousendit.com/DE0A378F768E2304
John said...
ReplyDeleteHey thanks for the opinion Johnnie Cochran. I believe your Cocaine White Bentley is waiting!
Ummm... looks like John may be buying a Bentley for Regina Osei.
John you are shameful. I feel sorry for you. That picture of a CHILD flipping the birdie really exposes who and what you are....
ReplyDeleteshame, shame
Wow! I had now idea I had made the headlines. John, contrary to what you may think, I've only read your blog on one or two (at most) occasions. I had no idea that this was even here until one of my friends who does read it wrote to tell me.
ReplyDeleteWell, first of all, let me say, John, that I am hurt. You could have at least checked with me first to find out WHY I had both posted and pulled the post before deciding to malign my name. It is so sad that your character just would not allow you to do anything that decent or caring.
It seems that you and some of your readers have a concern about my post. Let me speak for myself here:
I must apologize If I have posted something that was not true. Although I majored in the subject, I do not adhere to all the principles of a true journalist. Therefore, while I certainly SHOULD HAVE done more thorough checking before posting anything about a YTB and American Destinations merger, I DID NOT.
The information that I posted actually came from one of the Director's Calls where this information was shared. I believe that something new is on the horizon, however, after John sent a comment to my blog saying that I was a liar, I began to wonder if perhaps I (or the people hosting the Director's Call) had somehow been misinformed. Thus, I thought it best to pull the information UNTIL or unless I could confirm that it was indeed true from YTB.
I in no way intended to post anything untrue, and I think that John's defamation of my character is a very serious matter. John does not know me, as I do not know him. Somehow, whatever work or lifestyle that he has seems to make him think that he is empowered to say and do anything to anybody without recourse. John, that is not true. We pay for every action one way or the other. And because I am a believer, I know that the God that I serve, is more than able to fully take care of John Frenaye and anything and everything that he dares to say or do. If I were you, John, I would tread...
l-i-g-h-t-l-y.
Blessings,
ro
Wow! I had now idea I had made the headlines. John, contrary to what you may think, I've only read your blog on one or two (at most) occasions. I had no idea that this was even here until one of my friends who does read it wrote to tell me.
ReplyDeleteWell, first of all, let me say, John, that I am hurt. You could have at least checked with me first to find out WHY I had both posted and pulled the post before deciding to malign my name. It is so sad that your character just would not allow you to do anything that decent or caring.
It seems that you and some of your readers have a concern about my post. Let me speak for myself here:
I must apologize If I have posted something that was not true. Although I majored in the subject, I do not adhere to all the principles of a true journalist. Therefore, while I certainly SHOULD HAVE done more thorough checking before posting anything about a YTB and American Destinations merger, I DID NOT.
The information that I posted actually came from one of the Director's Calls where this information was shared. I believe that something new is on the horizon, however, after John sent a comment to my blog saying that I was a liar, I began to wonder if perhaps I (or the people hosting the Director's Call) had somehow been misinformed. Thus, I thought it best to pull the information UNTIL or unless I could confirm that it was indeed true from YTB.
I in no way intended to post anything untrue, and I think that John's defamation of my character is a very serious matter. John does not know me, as I do not know him. Somehow, whatever work or lifestyle that he has seems to make him think that he is empowered to say and do anything to anybody without recourse. John, that is not true. We pay for every action one way or the other. And because I am a believer, I know that the God that I serve, is more than able to fully take care of John Frenaye and anything and everything that he dares to say or do. If I were you, John, I would tread...
l-i-g-h-t-l-y. I really would.
Blessings,
ro
Gail, you are so right. That is so shameful. DO YOU NOT FEAR GOD, JOHN FRENEYE? If you don't I am afraid for you because the Bible calls anyone who doesn't "a FOOL".
ReplyDeleteLady, you put something up on your blog that was not true. That makes it a LIE. By calling you out on it, how has John or anyone "defamed" your character? By telling a LIE you are, in fact, a LIAR. Go look up the definition of the work LIAR if you don't believe me. I think you will find that it is someone who tells a LIE, a falsehood, something that isn't true. Hmmmm, in this situation, it seems to fit you to a T.
ReplyDeleteSo... Just me, you are also calling me a liar?
ReplyDeleteYou obviously did not listen to the recording where the Curtis and Laurie Edwards (Founders of American Destination) say out of their own mouths that YTB has acquired American Destinations.
Here is the link to a file of the recorded conversation between YTB and ADI announcing the acquisition of ADI by YTB.
Link:
http://download.yousendit.com/DE0A378F768E2304
Please do revisit my blog. I have reposted the infamous post that there has been so much conversation about on this post.
ReplyDeleteAlso, for a more detailed listen concerning this acquisition by YTB of American Destinations, I encourage you to click on the link posted there and listen. You will get an earful!
ro
OMG!!!! Regina you did it!
ReplyDeleteWhere is the crowbar to help John get his foot out of his mouth now?
Yes the owners definitely said that YTB acquired ADI. No doubt. They also said it was annonced last Friday! WOW!
Hmmmm....where is everybody now?
John showed himself for who he is. I wonder if that's his kid up there flipping the birdie?????
is that what he teaches his kids while he is suppose to be the saviour of the travel industry??
http://gailtravel.blogspot.com/
Regina,
ReplyDeleteLet me make sure I understand what you are saying.......
Your blantanly take advantage of travel agent fams when you, by your own admission, have no desire to actually do the work of a travel agent.
John posts something unfavorable about you, and he should fear God?
Why? Because even though you have no issue defrauding vendors by taking fams intended for agents who are actually going to SELL their properties, you're the ethical one? You're involved in a company that has been deemed unethical by the majority of people who founded this industry in the first place. Maybe you should clean up the mess in your own back yard first.
Oh I guess we should have known. God is in your downline isn't he.
ReplyDeleteYep. I'll bet that's it.
Has he made coach's corner yet?
So where is a statement from YTB? You post an anonymous recording (from Rod the flip flopper nonetheless) and all of a sudden because it was said, it is deemed to be true? Well I guess that is how the RTAs operate--remember Seligman?
ReplyDeleteDo you really think that if YTB is required to submit an SEC filing because they are IN TALKS about acquiring a travel company, that they don't need to file one when they actually BUY one?
Come on. The owner of ADI (I hear) is an RTA and apparently is utilizing the connection for his personal and business gain. I did not speak with the owner--but the person I spoke with said that YTB did NOT acquire or merge with ADI and then essentially laughed about paying referral spiffs.
Regina--I will take my chances with God--you should too, but if I were you, I would think a little but harder. He knows all!
Regina,
ReplyDeleteSue his arrogant ass off and tell us where we can send funds for your effort for this. This little twit needs to learn his lesson for giving you the finger and calling you a liar! I am serious!
An RTA
Also--Regina--you forgot to mention that I commented that this was BS on your blog--well before it appeared here.
ReplyDeleteApparently you were caught and removed it!
Gail--you have something against little white babies? They don't know what that gesture means. And it is a common photo all over the internet!
ReplyDeleteDude--what is she gonna sue him for? Saying that she posted information that was not true? For putting a graphic in his post that you did not like? It's obvious that she was lying, misinformed, or purposly deceiving since she immediately pulled the post she made. Get a clue? Maybe she can start a MLM lawsuit company. Just send Regina $50 a month and receive $0 in return--just like YTB.
ReplyDeleteJohn said...
ReplyDeleteSo where is a statement from YTB? You post an anonymous recording (from Rod the flip flopper nonetheless) and all of a sudden because it was said, it is deemed to be true? Well I guess that is how the RTAs operate--remember Seligman?
John,
1) That recording is not anonymous. I have a friend in YTB who allows me the privilege of listening to the archived recorded calls where I cut the piece that applied to your accusation.
2) I'm not a flip flopper. I simply pointed out a fact and posted my evidence. I'm still on the outside intensely looking in.
3) I had nothing to do with posting the recorded speech of Seligman. As soon as Seligman was exposed to be a fraud, I denounced the use of his recording and have completely disassociated myself from using his recording.
Alert! John is posting as an anon again!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ReplyDeleteAnonymous said...
ReplyDeleteDude--what is she gonna sue him for? Saying that she posted information that was not true? For putting a graphic in his post that you did not like? It's obvious that she was lying, misinformed, or purposly deceiving since she immediately pulled the post she made. Get a clue?
Anon, try to keep up. Regina posted right here on this blog (see above) why she pulled her post -- and now it's back up. The information is 100% accurate, and John, the cracker-jack journalist that he is, doesn't know how to properly verify it, so he spews whatever he's thinking, which, in this case, is libelous. He could have easliy spoken to the owner or his wife, but instead took the word of whatever hireling answered the phone. It could have been the cleaning lady, for all we know - after all, John never said who he spoke to (a representative?!), how long that person had worked at ADI, or what position he/she held there.
I wonder if John has Pre-Paid Legal? He's going to need it.
John:
ReplyDeleteBe sure to save the record of all the different IP addresses that hit your blog since you posted this character assassination, because that will go to the measure of damages. The more people that read it, the more you will have to pay.
Aren't you glad you're so popular?
Prepaid legal. Too funny as Coleman might say.
ReplyDeleteAs I said before, until someone can prove otherwise from a reputable source from YTB that it is indeed true, the post will stay. She took a position, I called and verified that it was false and I took a position claiming that her post was incorrect.
If YTB buys them, great, show me the SEC filing or even a press release and I will gladly post a retraction. Some anonymous recorded phone call by some fellow RTAs is not proof.
I'm not a journalist. I'm a communi ...er, columnist! (even though I think YTB should pay out all the money to all the RTA's and Reps, regardless of productivity. That way, I can keep reporting low 'per person' numbers)
ReplyDelete- John
She took a position, I called and verified that it was false and I took a position claiming that her post was incorrect.
ReplyDeleteHer being incorrect is fine. But YOU crossed a line and falsely called her a liar.
Let me make sure I understand your argument...
ReplyDeleteIt's perfectly ok to post inacurate, false or misleading info. It's not ok to call someone out on it?
Well given that you probably also believe that it's ok for YTB to tell thousands of people they will be fabulously weathy and travel like a travel agent with no training, I guess you would also believe that it's ok for Mrs minister coach wife mother to post something untrue as well.
For the record, having seen her blog and other items on-line before, John's comments in no way changed my opinion. I already thought she was full of it.
Anonymous said...
ReplyDeleteLet me make sure I understand your argument...
It's perfectly ok to post inacurate, false or misleading info. It's not ok to call someone out on it?
It's OK to call them one it, but to call them a "liar" would require proof they did in fact lie.
John crossed that line.
li·bel /ˈlaɪbəl/ Pronunciation[lahy-buhl] noun, verb, -beled, -bel·ing or (especially British) -belled, -bel·ling.
ReplyDelete–noun
1. Law. a. defamation by written or printed words, pictures, or in any form other than by spoken words or gestures.
b. the act or crime of publishing it.
c. a formal written declaration or statement, as one containing the allegations of a plaintiff or the grounds of a charge.
2. anything that is defamatory or that maliciously or damagingly misrepresents.
–verb (used with object)
3. to publish a libel against.
4. to misrepresent damagingly.
For example:
"here is what she has falsely claimed"
"Well no doubt Regina is more interested in recruiting people on her own Power Team. That alone seems to be reason to allow truth and honesty to fall by the wayside."
"..a minister and spreading mis-truths all for the sake of the almighty dollar."
"..misinformation that is being propagated by a rogue wife, mother, minister, businesswoman, mentor, and coach"
rogue
1. a dishonest, knavish person; scoundrel.
Just look at all the attorneys that are RTAs. There is no need to keep going back and forth cutting definitions of libel and pasting them here. You have passed your cut and paste 101 class--your Microsoft Employee ID card will be sent with your next YTB commission check.
ReplyDeleteSince there is nothing being said here, I will just close the comments on this post.
I have said that the post would be corrected/retracted if the truth ever came out from a reliable source.