Several people asked me about Phil Piccolo and who he is and what he did. I do not know the man personally, but from what I read, he is the King Zealot of MLM. If it is not MLM, he is not interested. Apparently, he has had some less than reputable programs over the years and was officially retired until Coach Tomer requested that he come check out YTB and help recruit more reps. YTB flew Phil from Florida to HQ in September 2007 two times and Phil signed up.
Within a month, he was a Level 1 Director and by the end of the recruiting period for the Birthday Bash had recruited enough people to steal the number one spot on the cruise.
For a more detailed description, here is a comment from this blog:
It seems that everyone wants to know the truth about Phil Piccolo and YTB and they don't feel they'll ever hear it until Phil leaves. Wrong. I happen to know the truth and everyone can take it for what it is worth -- even those who drone the Piccolo mantra about Bob Burtis having his bankruptcies. What Bob Burtis has or has not done does NOT change who Phil Piccolo is, what he has done and what he IS doing one iota. Phil stole the birthday bash away from whomever the second place winner was. This is how he did it: Phil started another one of his famous (or infamous?) programs and called it DubaiMLM. He made inferences to Dubai Dollars and free money and people went totally nuts signing up into the program from all over the world. Switch to YTB for a moment. Phil is doing his darnedest to sign up RTAs. He is also DYING financially because he has no income streams coming in. He needs money. So, he devises a clever plan to separate people from their money at $500 a whack. He starts telling everyone who signs up into YTB that they can be an RTA for free. He has access to a Florida travel agency (K & E International, Inc/KE Travel located at 4607 Lake Worth Rd, Lake Worth, FL 33463-3451 Phone: (561) 966-9808 who begins handing out FREE travel ID cards to everyone and anyone who signs up with Phil. Now, because Phil is giving away these RTA positions, he's not making any money. So, everyone who does this RTA thing must also participate in his "lead program" - $500 a pop. They are "GUARANTEED" ten sign ups a month and 3 conversions out of those ten. He tells them he is getting these super qualified leads from a high-end source and says they normally go for $1500 a month but that they are running a "special" and he'll get them in on the lead program for just $500. So people begin jumping on it. Phil is now raking in $500 from each person signing up as an RTA. I'm sorry, how many RTAs did Phil sign up? Each of these paid him $500. So, instead of YTB getting the money, PHIL PICCOLO got the money. Back to DubaiMLM. Everyone and everyone from all over the world is signing up into DubaiMLM. Since YTB is USA only, Phil can only use those leads that are here in the USA. Phil then takes the leads that have come into DubaiMLM and slams these people into YTB via a small sentence in one of his infamously long, boring and poorly worded emails that says they will be placed into a travel opportunity. So, the people from DubaiMLM are getting slammed into YTB, and the people from YTB who are paying $500 for ten leads are getting CRAP leads who know absolutely nothing about anything and are only interested in *free* money from DubaiMLM. Isn't that nice? THAT is who Phil Piccolo is. THAT is how he won coach's birthday bash. THAT is how he cheated the second place winner out of their RIGHTFUL place. It makes me sick. I can't believe that whoever the second place winner was really worked the program and DESERVED to win -- yet slimy con-man Phil Piccolo gets the free pass right under YTB's nose. I hear that he went to YTB headquarters to plead his cause and apparently fooled them into thinking he's just such a swell guy and is really just helping people. Right? I mean, after all, he has probably told them, "Look, I GAVE away the RTA positions and I made NO MONEY." When in actuality he was making $500 a month off of each person as long as they participated in his program. Phil Piccolo is the consummate con-artist and don't allow anyone to tell you anything differently.And in a subsequent comment:
I'm anonymous for a reason. It isn't because I don't have proof -- I just prefer to remain anonymous for my own protection. Your wonderful Phil Piccolo last year set up some guy who crossed him and duct taped him to a chair, put duct tape over his eyes, and he and his "henchmen" slapped the snot out of the guy. I think there are a number of charges that would arise out of something like that, like probably felony kidnapping just to name one. Of course Piccolo was stupid enough to photograph the event -- and I just happen to have obtained one of the copies of that photograph. What is it about stupid, arrogant criminals that drives them to photograph or otherwise document their crimes? The funny thing about this is that there are a number of other people who would be able to independently verify the person in the photo I have and it is certainly authentic. Also, Piccolo had bragged about it to someone I know. Phil Piccolo is nothing but a common criminal who at some point will end up in jail.After this post appeared, the anonymous poster contacted me with the following email:
Hi John. Please forgive my caution. You simply cannot be too careful out there. I took a look at your sites and read some articles you've written -- you're extremely talented and, I think, in no way connected to Phil Piccolo. What I would like to do is give you a call tomorrow sometime, if that is okay with you, and discuss my experiences with Mr. Piccolo from a first-hand point. You may, from there, make your own determination. It would be nice to have someone with some credibility help to address some of these issues. I will be happy to, after our conversation, provide you with the photograph in question. Also, when we talk tomorrow you'll know the story behind the photograph and the "why" behind it. From what I understand now, the authorities are breathing down Piccolo's neck and it is very likely that something will come to a head. At any rate, let me know your thoughts on tomorrow. Do you mind providing me with the best number with which to reach you? Thanks John.Well, apparently when old Coach realized that Phil had scammed the scammer--by not legitimately recruiting RTAs, he was canned from YTB. Back in February when I asked about this, here is the response I received:
I know all about the crap on the internet about Phil. I got flooded with e-mails from other RTA’s to ask if what they read was true. He’s one of those “Professional Networkers” that everyone just hates cause he’s an MLM junkie. He’s been terminated, but what I don’t know is if it was because of all the fuss we made or something he did. (I even had a couple Directors ask if I could find something on him, that’s how bad they wanted him out.) I know the guy who brought him in and from what I hear, Coach was a little upset about the e-mail concerning him and Phil getting together. Apparently it was fabricated. I don’t know if Peter knew about his history or not, but he’s not responding to my e-mails. Here’s Piccolo’s rep site: www.ytb.com/themillionairementor, it’s no longer available. His other two marketing sites are also down. (http://www.sell3travelfree.com & www.joinforfreetravel.com )So there you have it. The story of Phil Piccolo!
So, basically this Phil guy is a SCUMBAG, got into YTB treated people poorly and YTB took action and kicked him out?
ReplyDeleteIn the second email it was mentioned that Coach was pissed and the meeting between them was fabricated. So, it isn't like YTB and Phil were in bed.
Good for YTB for weeding out the scumbags. Thanks for the post John.
Go YTB
This guy was a scumbag BEFORE joining YTB yet they wanted him anyway. Why? To sucker others into joining. Its ok for scumbags to join, as long as they recruit.
ReplyDeleteRemember, when someone joins ytb it is not underneath the company but another REP.
ReplyDeleteMy conjecture and take....Coach knew all about Phil and his past and his ability to recruit. Sold him some snake oil and encouraged him to join up with the intent of cutting him down.
ReplyDeleteBut in the meantime, YTB now has the benefit of all the RTAs and Reps that Piccolo recruited. Notice that the whoop dee doo program about earning a million dollar bonus came out almost right after Phil was given the boot. Possibly to entice those he recruited to stay?
Well, John that's quite a charge. Considering you haven't proven anything here on any other post you have made it was nice to see you preface that comment with "my conjecture and take".
ReplyDeleteWith that said, your take, IMO doesn't follow any logic.
First off you (coach) would run the risk of having several hundred new people pissed off about ethical concerns. That is a large group of "former RTAs" to get quotes from for the anti MLM blogs.
Second, I know Coach and trust several people who have been friends with him for years.
And, your last part, if you are talking about the Fast Start program, that was in the works about a year ago, which was before Piccolo got into YTB.
IT makes perfect sense. Piccolo was NOT YTB---he was the one that scammed the people. Now Coach can come in like a white knight and sell them all on the program. I don't know how many people Phil recruited but it was a lot.
ReplyDeleteMaybe the fast start program was in the works for over a year...I will defer to you on that since you seem to be the right hand man of Coach
Why do I think there are 2 'Johns'? One, the blog host and the other ?
ReplyDelete'mythical' Senator materializes:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.sunherald.com/447/story/526255.html
I seem to remember someone here posting that Coach is a 'good guy and wanted to give Phil a chance to do things the right way" - this of courses indicated that Coach knew all about Picolo's past.
ReplyDeleteAnyway, this is WHAT YOU GET WHEN YOU DON'T VET!!! It's the "Yale or Jail" thing, folks....
So, the former senator AND the former CEO of Carnival are now on the BOD of YTB....what say you Mr. JOHN
ReplyDeleteHe's not a former Senator -- he is a Senator.
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I suppose John will now disparage Mr. Saunders' character as well.
JF and the TTAs -
ReplyDeleteYes, we knew about Burt Saunders and Bob Dickinson as of yesterday.
Kind of puts kink into that complaint about YTB "not having anyone on their Board of Directors with a travel background", huh?
I cannot believe how these two men were duped by Coach and Scott to join the Board of a "ruse" or "scam" like YTB. Coach must have some magical powers.
Yes, a powerful, respected Florida State Senator and a giant in the travel industry.
I'm looking foward to the spin from the TTAs about this one (I can hear Martha right now saying "damnit")
Seems like this news might warrant a twofer day on the great JF blog.
It is a good day at YTB.
YTB and TRAVEL: A Great Mix!
OK, so a current senator for the state of Florida who has been a legislator since 1994 AND the former CEO of Carnival who is STILL on the board of Carnival are on the Board of YTB?????
ReplyDeleteHmmmmm, seems to me that some people think that YTB is the real deal.
What is John to do?
...the train's a-comin'.
ReplyDeleteSo go ahead, John .. try giving Saunders "the finger" and see what happens.
ReplyDeleteThat is indeed good news for YTB. Congratulations.
ReplyDeleteNow, with these 2 on your board do you think it will change the 80% failure rate of RTAs?
Personally I think the Carnival BOD is a good thing for YTB. At least now someone with travel background has a clue. Maybe that will help YTB actually sell travel. As for the Senator..honestly I don't care.
ReplyDeleteYou guys seem to make more of it then it is. I do not care that YTB is in the industry if you are actually SELLING TRAVEL and not more so interested in recruiting and lying to the masses. If your main target was to sell travel, and train people properly to do so, none of this would be an issue. But you have MANY MANY untrained, unknowledgeable agents out in the field who don't sell, don't care and probably don't even know the difference between Abu Dahbi and Abu Simbel. Instead of pretending this doesn't happen, work on your education and work for whatever perks you feel your are entitled to, be it tax breaks or travel. I'm honestly tired of the name calling, horrible things said on here because of their own opinions.
Do people get paid for sitting on boards?
ReplyDeleteBut but but John...how do you know that the PHIL that was in YTB was the SCAM artist Phil? Hrmm...I remember a few posts like that.
ReplyDeleteAnd now how about the vanishing Doctor what about him?
"Do people get paid for sitting on boards?"
ReplyDeleteYes, quite a lot.
travellisa -
ReplyDeleteDo you mean terms like scam artists, ruse, pariahs, crotch, RATS and other wonderful expressions from the TTAs on this blog describing the business that many good people have chosen?
I have always said there is a need for TTAs and they do a very good job with their business model.
Just doesn't seem to go the other way.
You will just have to learn to coexist because, as they say "we ain't going away".
And the YTB-obsessed blogger will continue to destroy his reputation with his knee-jerk reactions to all-things YTB.
YTB and TRAVEL: A Great Mix!
I agree with Lisa.
ReplyDeleteIt looks like YTB is going legit with Bob on the board. That means RTA's will have to sell travel and not downlines. You will have to get your education and stricter guidelines will be put on RTA's.
As to the name calling here by RTA's you all need to grow up.
"With ever increasing concern among Floridians about unresponsive HMOs, expensive pharmaceuticals with alarming side effects and unnecessary surgical procedures, the unmet demand for qualified naturopathic health providers is exploding. According to Beverly Betancur, N.D., Chief Executive Officer of the Naturopathic National Council, every effort has been made to inform the appropriate authorities, including State Senator Burt L. Saunders (Rep., District 37) Chair of the Florida Senate's Health and Human Services Appropriations Committee, Governor Jeb Bush and others that they are in violation of a Cease and Desist Order referenced in the lawsuit. According to the lawsuit, the state is defying federal authority and denying many of its constituents the type of health care options they want and need, and this issue will be decided in a Tallahassee court."
ReplyDeleteSounds like a guy I want on board....
LET'S GIVE'EM SOMETHING TO TALK ABOUT!!!!!!!!!GO-YTB-GO-YTB-GO-YTB-GO-YTB-GO-YTB-GO-YTB-GO-YTB-GO-YTB-GO-YTB-
ReplyDeletePress Releases: PR Newswire
YTB International, Inc. Appoints Robert H. Dickinson and Burt L. Saunders, Esq. to Board of Directors
By YTB International, Inc.
WOOD RIVER, Ill., April 30 --YTB International, Inc. (OTC Bulletin Board: YTBLA) ("YTB" or the "Company"), a provider of Internet-based travel booking services for travel agencies and home-based independent representatives in the United States, Bermuda, the Bahamas, and Canada, today announced the appointment of Robert H. Dickinson and Burt L. Saunders, Esq. to its Board of Directors, effective immediately. Mr. Dickinson and Mr. Saunders will become the 10th and 11th members of the Company's Board, and bring decades of experience in the travel and legislative fields, respectively, to the Board.
Prior to joining the YTB Board of Directors, Mr. Dickinson served as President and Chief Executive Officer of the Carnival Cruise Lines division of Carnival Corporation. Mr. Dickinson also previously served as President and Chief Operating Officer of Carnival Cruise Lines for ten years, and remains a member of the Board of Directors of Carnival Corporation, on which he has served since 1987. Mr. Dickinson also currently serves as a member of the Board of Directors of Carnival plc, and has held such Board seat since 2003. Mr. Dickinson received his B.S.B.A in management from John Carroll University and his MBA from Duquesne University. He was awarded an honorary Doctor of Business Administration degree from Johnson & Wales University in 1995.
Mr. Saunders has been a Florida State Senator for District 37 for the last ten years, representing Collier and Lee counties. In addition, he has served in an "of counsel" capacity for the firm Gray Robinson, P.A., and previously for Woodward, Pires & Lombardo, P.A., practicing in the areas of land use, government and health care law. Mr. Saunders received his B.A. from the University of South Florida, his J.D. from the College of William and Mary, and his L.L.M. in Ocean/Coastal Law from the University of Miami.
Commenting on the addition of Messrs. Dickinson and Saunders to the YTB Board of Directors, J. Lloyd "Coach" Tomer, Chairman of the Board of Directors, said, "I know that I speak on behalf of our entire company when I say that we are extremely pleased to welcome Robert and Burt to our Board. Our Board is very diverse, and we constantly draw on the knowledge and experience that each individual director brings to the table. Bob's extensive travel industry experience, and Burt's legislative experience, combine to add valuable strength to our Board, and we look forward to tapping into their respective skill sets. I believe that these additions will bring necessary and valuable resources to the Company, while enhancing our efforts to further build the YTB brand and reputation."
Recognized as the 35th largest seller of travel in the U.S. in 2006 by Travel Weekly, YTB International, Inc. provides Internet-based travel booking services for home-based independent representatives in the United States, Canada, Bermuda, and the Bahamas.
GO-YTB-GO-YTB-GO-YTB-GO-YTB-GO-YTB-GO-YTB-GO-YTB-GO-YTB-GO-YTB-
Oh well lookey here. The TTA's are already beginning to start their smear campaigns! This is what they do when things are beginning to look bad for them. Hide and run, seek shelter, and stay out of the sun as YTB is about to explode into something much bigger and scarier then your imaginations can conjure up! We are a force to be reckoned with!
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ReplyDeleteI am talking about ALL name calling. We are adults are we not? The pot was tipped IMO when someone told Martha to go back to the abortion clinic. WTH grow the hell up. Both sides will never fully agree, and everyone has the right to their opinion. It seemed to be a HUGE deal that John called Regina a liar, but telling someone what was said above is ok? Seriously. I've been called many things on this blog, and I take it with a grain of salt because its coming from people I honestly don't know or care to. I have thicker skin then that.
As for the need for TTA's, there will always be one. People want service and attention. Web statistics show this as more and more are researching online but booking elsewhere. If YTB truly wants to make it big in this industry they need to get their people trained properly and weed out those that have no interest in the work, education or service thats required. If your in it for tax breaks and perks alone..they should be shown the door. You want to be respected, there it is.!
As for the poster above..hide and run from what exactly? Last time I checked many other agency's were outselling YTB and other MLM's by billions IN TRAVEL ONLY. Let me know when you catch up.
Thank you Lisa! Amen!
ReplyDeleteWith Bob on the Board the scumbags will be shown the door including the ones that can't play nice with everyone.