Lauri then introduced Scott, who was welcomed with a rousing round of applause and standing ovation. In his usual eloquent form, Scott recapped the blockbuster announcements from the Convention, spoke candidly about the California lawsuit, and outlined his vision of how YTB will be the emerging driving force of travel in the future. Juliet St. John then offered sage advice on how to build a huge organization by maximum exposure using your business cards, and emphasizes the soundness of participating in the $6,000 Success from Home Magazine Guarantee program.
Now I have to ask, when faced with nearly $200 million dollars of lawsuits, one of which is being spearheaded from the Attorney General of the largest State in the Union, is Scott Tomer a liar? Or is he really that stupid?
Hopefully the remaining independent people on their Board of Directors (are there any?) see this, because they need to ask why their CEO is talking "candidly" about a potential business crumbling lawsuit with a bunch of prospects and a bunch of INDEPENDENT Reps and RTAs. If he is not, why is he lying to these people that he is trying to recruit.
Any CEO worth his salt, would simply say that they cannot comment on it at this time.
YTB never could keep their mouths shut. That is part of the problem.
ReplyDeleteThere is only ONE moron or idiot that needs to be addressed and Doug Bauknight does a good job of unmasking the author of this blog today:
ReplyDeleteSeptember 22, 2008
Fear Factor LIVE!
It appears that someone is still frustrated with me because I won’t let him spout off here on my blog. So in order to make this person feel better about himself, I’m going to highlight his entry for everyone to see.
Please note, that he’s sworn off writing about me on his own blog so that’s why you find it on this forum. (Not really, but I really wish they would for their own sanity.)
The spin, ignorance, and flat out lies are getting old and rather worn. However, the man obviously wants an audience, so I’ll oblige at this point. And I'd like to ask my own question not only to the poster, but all posters who like to hide behind thier computer keyboards. (Later)
I have to wonder why everything I post needs to be commented on these days. It was my understanding that nobody reads this blog any longer, but every time I post, somebody’s commenting on what I’ve said. They just HAVE to respond with some sort of rebuttal to correct what they believe to be gross errors and lies that I post here in my own little corner of cyberspace.
In contrast, do I need to correct some of the gross errors I’ve seen out there made by some of the same people who think they have a better vantage point than I do?
Not really…
Keeping up with John and all his posts is a full time job in its own right. How the man makes any money with all the time he spends reading and posting on the internet is a complete mystery. A bigger mystery for me is how this man formulates some of the ideas he has.
Like most people, he takes what he’s heard as actual fact, but never seems to check to see if it’s even remotely accurate.
I had a good laugh over his assumption that R&B Marketing stood for “Rick and Brenda”, and even went as far as stating that he checked the Nevada registration.
Not that it would matter if Phil & Doris Davidoff are REP’s or RTA’s, he’s convinced that they are because of the Freedom Awards we handed out to during the National Convention. Not comprehending that Frank Brummett, Bob Federico, and UHY, LLP are also Freedom Award winners.
And, what does it say about someone when other Zealots need to help him out and start correcting him?
None of these false, misleading or at the very least deceptive claims however appears to stop the man from spouting off all day, every day over his obsession and illusions about YTB.
I could follow behind with a shovel and dump truck cleaning up all the crap this guy posts, but I’ve resigned myself to the fact that it’s never going to stop, and I honestly, it’s not much fun or profitable working the garbage detail.
What is amusing to me however about this rebuttal is how much time he spent trying to justify his position.
Let’s not forget that this poster laid claim that he couldn’t find ANY positive press on Coach. I could care less if I found 1 or 10 positive articles; it’s four more than he even cared to admit.
I LOVED the looooong drawn out explanation about a phone book. Maybe he spent all the time he did on this because he didn’t want anyone to look at why Rhode Island repealed its Travel Agent Bonding law? (That would be a 40% decline in Travel Agencies over the last 5 years.)
Nor do I recall ever posting here this notion about 80% of all travel being booked on line. (I’m not going through three years of posts however to make sure.) I do find it odd that he conveniently missed my post less than a month ago on actual on line booking stats, or the type of client demographic that make these purchases.
I would like to answer one question John asked in his post which was directed specifically at me.
“But what about this Doug...the next time you are in the Corner, why not ask Coach to host a series of meetings to address his critics.”
You don’t have the guts do you John?
Why is it up to me, Firemedic, or any other YTB’er to do that? Dude, you’re the one with the problem with YTB, not us. I find it very odd that you took the time to see Scott Tomer, was in the same room with the man, but didn’t say word one to him. I find it odd that you know the e-mail address of the CEO, but can’t send a simple e-mail to ask yourself? You have the address, and the phone numbers, heck, you claim to get calls from inside the Home Office, but can’t ask them to forward a message to Coach to arrange such a meeting?
I wish I could say I was kidding, but sadly, that’s how lame this guy really is.
John, I’m sorry buddy, but I just can’t condone or help someone who doesn’t have enough of a spine to take advantage of all the opportunities you’ve had to set this up on your own. So I’ll have to decline your request and state that the only reluctance I see is your own.
What has become very clear, is that you, the other Traditionalists, and the Zealots you have following you are scared to death about what you might find when you actually come face to face with a man who has more integrity, more character, and more ethics in his pinky finger, than whole lot of you combined.
If we have a problem, we pick up the phone like Von Nickleberry, or maybe someone like Regina Osei and at least attempt to straighten things out like an adult. But not you John, you’re too good, you’re too busy, you’re too special, you want it handed to you on silver platter because you’re the great and powerful John Frenaye.
Great and Powerful Oz is more like it.
If it meant that much to you, it would have been done. But instead, you hide behind a keyboard and type away with all your little insults and spin about how YTB is destroying your precious industry, and you want us, meaning the field of YTB, to make it better for you.
I’m done with this “get a clue” idea.
I now have to up the ante to “get a spine”.
Well well well...seems like I hit a nerve with old Doug and Mix. Apparently he has reverted back to the tactics of attacking the individual rather than the subject.
ReplyDeleteNo matter. And a point of clarification, I never swore off writing about him. He spouts forth too much misinformation to be ignored. And the link he referenced (if he bothered to read it) was addressed to the blog readers asking them not to comment on HIS posts in this blog. And yes, I know that is what I am doing here, but Mix--you started it.
Doug or Mix or the countless others don't want their recruiting cash cow to dry up. They are threatened. So, they will do, say or blame anyone else so that doesn't happen.
ReplyDeleteRead pyramid scheme alert. Typical MLM behavior.
Now you can see why I don't read Doug's blog.
ReplyDeleteJust how that 'unmasks' anything is beyond me. I also do not believe that a coach-a-holic
can determine anyones integrity. So, back where we started.
I gave up reading Dougs blog when he stopped allowing people to comment. Why have a blog if you do not want people to debate it. Pointless no...unless your sole purpose is to provide as much BS about your company and not let people get both sides of the story. Hmmm just like the YTBers do on WAHM, if anyone says anything anti-ytb they are banned...biased! If you can't take the heat stay out of the kitchen! Complain to your company and the idiots in charge..its their own doing, nobody elses.
ReplyDeleteWow! Doug really posted that on his blog?
ReplyDeleteSounds more like a scorned lover than a guy trying to make a point about business or ethics. He is obviously very passionate in his feelings towards John. Kinda makes you wonder doesn't it....
Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned!
TL-
ReplyDeleteIt's probably good that you can't comment on Doug's blog.
I'm concerned about your hundreds and hundreds of clients when their WTA is spending her day posting on so many blogs.
TravelLisa is all over the place.
She just cannot let the day go by without her "expert" opinions on all-things YTB.
Another blog to post on would just mean less customer service for your clients.
Just looking out for you and your hundreds of clients, TL.
Mix.
ReplyDeleteWhen are you going to grasp the concept that I don't give a crap what you think. Think I've said that many times. You mean nothing to me, your comments mean even less.
Mix is mentally disabled. End of story.
ReplyDeleteTravel Lisa and AT -
ReplyDeleteMy comments must hit home with you two WTAs.
Amazing how our little travel agency gets you all worked up!
Whine, whine, whine about YTB.
Travel Lisa cannot see a day go by without complaining about YTB Travel.
Posting here and there about YTB.
From blog to blog.
Just cannot get YTB off of her mind.
Mentally disabled, AT?
No, AT.
Your travel business must be disabled for you to be so concerned about YTB.
Mix
ReplyDeleteYou can only wish that us travel agents are having a hard time. My agency is having a banner year. No worries at all. As for me posting from blog to blog. Where, here and scam.com. Please. Told you I need to be amused while I'm on hold with the airlines. It really doesn't take much time at all. If one person changes their mind about joining a MLM its all worth it. No whining at all. Happy selling...or wait is it happy recruiting only with you?
Mix-My business is up as well. In fact, I bet I book in 1 week what you book in a year.
ReplyDeleteAs for my mentally disabled comment. Your rantings on here are making less and less sense every day.
Do you even read what you post? Better yet have your neighbor, friend or relative who isn't in YTB read them.
Anyone who posts the same nonsensical banter every day like you do is definitely not playing with a full deck....Even the way you post with your sentences far apart show some type of mental problem.
I'm currently a YTB RTA, make 80% of my income from travel product sales and I believe there are a lot of wrinkles to be ironed out of all companies in the MLM Travel industry (host agencies aren't perfect either).
ReplyDeleteThe thing is that it'll never happen with the way the writers of these blogs and commenter behave.
If you really are interested seeing to the integrity of the industry none of you would actively participate in childish game of name calling which goes on every single day.
If you're really interested in making things better, wouldn't it be better to start communicating?
Just a thought.
Tim-And, if you are really interested in selling travel find another host. Google YTB and Scam in the same sentence. I would be mortified if my company had so much negativity associated with it AND class action lawsuits and an Attorney General lawsuit.
ReplyDeleteAs to making things better the only way that will happen is if YTB abandons their current business model and gets rid of their management staff ie Coach and Tomer and replace them with people who know the travel industry. Coach and Tomer have a history of being con artists ie the Lisa Marie debacle and more. IF you spent any time reading this blog or scam.com you would see the facts on those 2. IMO, they are snake oil salesmen albeit very charming. But, still snake oil salesmen. Look at all the money they have made on your backs while the majority make 0, zippo, nada....