Friday, September 26, 2008

Just An Opinion From An Average Joe

Here is an opinion from an average Joe who was solicited to join YTB and his analysis of the pyramid scheme. He is pretty right on. Some of the comments from his blog, Your Daily Remedy:

First of all, let's think about the presentation. Why is she doing a FREE presentation? Well, it's because anyone who signs up under Heather, is money in the bank for both of them!


Well, if I made a Peach Pie with Nectarines instead, sure it wouldn't be a peach pie, but it sure would taste, smell, and do everything pretty close to what a normal peach pie would do. It may not be "technically" a pyramid scheme, but it damn sure acts like one.


In the presentation, it sounds like you'll be making EASY money for the rest of your life! Well if it was so easy, then why is it that something like 94% of YTB agents make less than $90 per year?


So in order to make any serious money (or even semi-serious money) you can't really rely on booking travel, unless you book a TON of it. People aren't going to find your webpage on google since there's about 200,000 other YTB travel pages (unless you get tons of people to shamelessly link to you). You might be able to convince your family or friends to book through you, but if you're like me, you like to check a few different websites to get the best deal. I usually check a few (including a friends YTB page), and although they're competitive, I can usually find cheaper rates elsewhere.


At the end of Sabrina's presentation, I remember she said something like, "you have an option now to change your life. In one year, you can be in the same place you are now, or you can make a change that will affect the rest of your life." Convincing indeed. But you have to keep in mind that 94% of us are not going to be any different except maybe a few hundred bucks in the hole, but we WILL be contributing to her retirement fund! That's not a knock on her, but she's not doing this presentation to change YOUR life...she's doing it to enhance hers.
In his blog, he discusses a Director from California (Jane Doe #45?) Sabrina Dagostino. This young lady is remarkable in all that she has accomplished in a few short years. From her site she lays claim to:

  • Owning and operating a helicopter transportation system
  • Owning and operating a full service real estate and mortgage office
  • Co-owned and operated The OC Cruiser (a bus transportation company)
  • Owned and operated a a waterfront Martini Lounge
  • Holding an Engineering Degree
  • Holding a Real Estate Brokers license
  • Possessing a Law Degree and being registered to practice law in the state of California

All this at age 28. Not saying it is not true, just that it is remarkable. Maybe she knows Dr. Seligman. He exaggerates as well!

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7 comments:

  1. Did she mention in the seminar that YTB put her book on hold because of the CA lawsuit? Kinda makes you wonder what kind of crap is in it.

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  2. It took her nine months to become a director?
    Holton Buggs did it in 43 days and look where it got him.

    Speaking of Holton - do you think YTb cares that he is all over the net shilling his CDs and using YTBs name to do it?

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  3. Didn't someone on here say something about having a meeting with Dr. Seligman in Cheyenne, WY? What ever happened with that. Did the meeting take place? Does he exist?

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  4. Thanks for the link. Hopefully it allows people to get a relatively unbiased view of YTB. I am neither for nor against it, it just isn't for me.

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  5. Arun - That's integrity. Thanks!

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  6. what is so wrong with people earning a living for there self i am sure corporate america don't care about you. So don't down one group the 90% of people that did not earn a dime paid because that what they wanted to do nobody twisted there arm. read my blog about what donald trump said he endorses network marketing how do you think he started don't believe the hype. YTB agents are given rules what to do and not do. YTB agents are suppose to attend a training course. YTB agents have support 24/7. YTB have sponsor calls everyday of the week and training on the phone and online. If YTB was so bad why are they powered by Travelocity and Hotels.com and Tickets Now and Passports hey that is government is it or not. That's why the kansas city chief bought a website. www.chiefstravel.com that is why they have non profit charity groups with websites.

    Wow all of this and we are scamming the organization you need to worry about is Traverus they charge little money to get in which means anybody who just want to play travel agents will join. At least YTB charges 500.00 to ween out the junk. That is a plus in my eyes and I will pay 500 anyday. YTB been around 8 years. The people who are complaining did not start until they see YTB as a threat because we are having a Billion dollar in travel this year. Now they want to complain. That is why they are not complaining about Traverus because they have about 4000 people and nobody cares.

    People out here don't have jobs getting layed off. YTB gives health insurance for the people. If you can own a website and your family can be on you downline weather you book a trip or not you get a check every Monday. So I don't see what is the problem they are not hurting nobody.

    All the So called Travel Agents complain to Orbiz, Cheaptickets, Travelocity they stole your business. To big to pick on. People can book there own travel without paying a fee to a travel agent they can call a confirm there plans there self. So if they are doing it anyway why not do it on your own website and make a commission.

    About commission any fool will no the total price of the trip is not commission it is a percentage. So Carnival percentage is 17% of the total for everybody not just YTB for travel agents too. So you get 60% of the commission which travel agents keeps the whole commission and charge you a fee for using them.

    Wake up people you paid 1200 for a cruise and you can leave with 144 dollars it better then nothing you started with. Don't let these travel agents steer you wrong read my blog and learn the business and join it will be the best thing that happened to you and your family. www.daniellemangum.blogspot.com

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  7. traveling moms said...
    what is so wrong with people earning a living for there self i am sure corporate america don't care about you. So don't down one group the 90% of people that did not earn a dime paid because that what they wanted to do nobody twisted there arm. read my blog about what donald trump said he endorses network marketing how do you think he started don't believe the hype. YTB agents are given rules what to do and not do. YTB agents are suppose to attend a training course. YTB agents have support 24/7. YTB have sponsor calls everyday of the week and training on the phone and online. If YTB was so bad why are they powered by Travelocity and Hotels.com and Tickets Now and Passports hey that is government is it or not. That's why the kansas city chief bought a website. www.chiefstravel.com that is why they have non profit charity groups with websites.

    Wow all of this and we are scamming the organization you need to worry about is Traverus they charge little money to get in which means anybody who just want to play travel agents will join. At least YTB charges 500.00 to ween out the junk. That is a plus in my eyes and I will pay 500 anyday. YTB been around 8 years. The people who are complaining did not start until they see YTB as a threat because we are having a Billion dollar in travel this year. Now they want to complain. That is why they are not complaining about Traverus because they have about 4000 people and nobody cares.

    People out here don't have jobs getting layed off. YTB gives health insurance for the people. If you can own a website and your family can be on you downline weather you book a trip or not you get a check every Monday. So I don't see what is the problem they are not hurting nobody.

    All the So called Travel Agents complain to Orbiz, Cheaptickets, Travelocity they stole your business. To big to pick on. People can book there own travel without paying a fee to a travel agent they can call a confirm there plans there self. So if they are doing it anyway why not do it on your own website and make a commission.

    About commission any fool will no the total price of the trip is not commission it is a percentage. So Carnival percentage is 17% of the total for everybody not just YTB for travel agents too. So you get 60% of the commission which travel agents keeps the whole commission and charge you a fee for using them.

    Wake up people you paid 1200 for a cruise and you can leave with 144 dollars it better then nothing you started with. Don't let these travel agents steer you wrong read my blog and learn the business and join it will be the best thing that happened to you and your family. www.daniellemangum.blogspot.com

    Sep 30, 2008 11:29:00 PM


    I only have one thing to say to this. In internet speak....O M G!

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