Below, you will find the agenda for the Certified Referring Travel Agent Certification. This is the required training in order to receive the YTB identification card and is also required for the CLIA card.
The agenda is prefaced with this comment:
When we become the largest travel company in the world, one of the key reasons will be the Certified RTA program. This additional program will take your travel business to the next level by opening up additional income opportunities and providing you with world class training taught by YTB's top leaders at locations across the US.As for the agenda itself:
Attendees will gain first hand knowledge of how to maximize the income and benefits of their YTB business from the company leaders. Classes are taught by YTB Directors. You will learn how to:I guess my questions are:
Earn substantial income from travel sales:
- Put your online travel agency on autopilot
- 10% override on all travel sold by RTAs referred by your PowerTeam Reps
- $500 and $5000 bonuses by helping those RTAs succeed
Save incredible amounts on your personal vacations and travel:Dramatically and legally reduce your personal income taxes:
- Only Certified RTAs can apply for their CLIA card
- The proper way to ask for industry rates and upgrades
- Where to find, and how to book FAM trips
- Home-based travel business tax advantages
- Convert current personal expenses to tax deductible business expenses
The cost of certification is $149 and comes with a 2-Way Money Back Guarantee.
If you are unsatisfied for any reason, tell us at the end of the certification and receive a 100% refund.
Personally enroll 3 RTAs who become Certified RTAs and receive a 100% reimbursement.
Rep Training
The afternoon will be dedicated to additional training for all of the newly Certified RTAs who are also Reps with yourTravelBiz.com.
- Build a team of Reps that could lead to total and complete financial security.
- How the YTB copyrighted compensation works.
- The POWER of the PowerTeam.
- Real residual income.
Don’t miss out on these historic and business building events. You can register for the RTA Certification course nearest you in your Back Office. Just click on Company Events, then Certification Trainings.
- Where do they fit in "travel" training into this?
- How are the Reps qualified to provide training?
- Why the focus on "how to ask" for perks?
- Where is the part about geography?
- Where is the part about agency accounting?
- Where is the part about client consultations?
- Where is the part about preferred suppliers and market share?
- Where is the part about handling problems when they arise?
- And I thought many said YTB was no longer charging for training--hence the decline in training revenue on their 10Q. Hmm, guess not.
Boy you'd think with an "award winning" travel agent like Candi May on board they would have had her give some real travel training. Of course no one has ever proven that she was ever really an agent though.
ReplyDeleteHere are some other classes that should be on the schedule:
1. How to make director in 30 days by Holton Buggs
2. Why God likes YTBers more than TTAs by Regina Ossie & Coach
3. How to get those pesky kool-aid stains out of your clothes with Marcia Dempsy
4. How I overcame my anger issues against TTAs with Ole Scorekeeper
5. Things not do to with your webcam with Earl Allen Beck
6. How to explain what you did with $48,000. (This course offered in Tennessee only)
7. How to upsell a Carnival cruise by adding a car and a dozen roses.
Don't forget:
ReplyDelete---30 Days T0 That Cocaine White Bentley
---How To Scam The Scammer by Phil Piccolo
----How to Beat The Odds in A Casino by Chris Paraldi
----How to Get That "Just Cruised Tan" without cruising by Doug Baoknignt
----How To Make $6.9 Million A Month $50 at a Time by The Coach
----How to buy an IATA Card by Al Anolik
Their "training" is a money grab. It is additional money the RTAs must pay. If they don;t like it they can get it back, and if they recruit (more money to Coach) they can get it refunded.
ReplyDeleteBut I am sure the pitch is---with the CRTA you can take it to the next level. Don't you want to take advantage of all the perks the YTB and CLIA cards offer? Don;t you want to be recognized as a "professional" by all the travel vendors? For $149 this all can be yours....and with 3000 RTAs in attendance at the training in Richmond, it was yet another reach into their collective pocket of $447000
Well now JOhn, let's be honest. If you can!!!
ReplyDeleteYOU DAMN WELL KNOW THE RICHMOND WAS A FREE TRAVEL TRAINING and not a paid CRTA training. I know you know this because it had been discussed with you in comments on other blogs going back a few times over the last few weeks.
As far as the initial blog, well the grab from the brief outline on the website is what it does say and it should go more in depth as to what goes on. As there is some extensive travel training at a CRTA as I have been to 7 of them. I do admit that on the website it should say more about the travel.
Uhm...not really...
ReplyDeleteFrom the YTB site
Only $20.00!
To register for this Outstanding Travel Training:
Login to your Travel Portal,
Click on Richmond Travel Training
(Located in the left hand column)
or you may register
at the door.
That was admission. The CRTA training was $149
LOL---Ole Doogie claims to have been too busy to "read" this blog, but for some reason there are no new posts on his....maybe the tanning salon had a few openings!
ReplyDeleteDoogie---we see through you and your anonymous postings! I bet you lost a lot when you played hide and seek when you were younger
Since this blog is about MLMs and Travel, can you share a little insight on how YTB's 'certification' training compares to the training provided by other MLMs, like Traverus, World Ventures, or GTI? Which one provides the best travel training? Outside of the MLM-provided training, what training would you recommend for someone who wants to be a full-time travel agent (not a MLmarketer)?
ReplyDelete"I do admit that on the website it should say more about the travel."
ReplyDeleteWhy would it say more about travel when they aren't trying to train anyone about travel? They are trying to teach you how to build your downline and line their pockets.
"As there is some extensive travel training at a CRTA as I have been to 7 of them."
Really? What were they? Can you tell us a little about them? What motivated you to take them?
Perhaps we should look at the training opportunities various other Hosts and Consortia are offering? I suspect there is quite a lot omore emphasis on the sales process, marketing your services, and Vendors....
ReplyDeleteI know there certainly is when i go to my Consortium meetings.
CTA in MD
You are still assuming that we want to be a TTA. I send people to a website to book their travel. I have booked all my travel for myself my whole life. I have never in my life used a TTA. It is not brain science to book your trip online. I guess if you are a dinosaur like some TTA's it may be difficult to book online. I am in my 30's and my age group does not need a TTA. Get over it!!!!!
ReplyDeleteYes please tell us about the travel training you received with the 7 training courses you took.
ReplyDeleteFor the 30 something year old. I am also in my 30's and have been a "dinosaur" for about 18 years now. There are ALOT of people who book with a travel agent to obtain discounts, upgrades, specialized services and much more that a website cannot give you. If you feel comfortable booking online, so be it. Clients who are spending countless thousands of dollars do not want the chance of something going wrong..we are not just talking about airline tickets. I just had 4 people checking on a safari..needed info on visas, shots, TOP OF THE LINE places to stay, flights, excursions and the lot. You are NOT going to find that on a generic site. And he is not going to book a $30K trip on a faceless website.
ReplyDeleteAs for us dinosaurs having a hard time booking online. Read a paper. Majority of travel agents use the internet everyday for vendors, information and other things. You don't have the market on that.
deflect deflect deflect
ReplyDeleteIs there even one thing that YTB doesn't charge for? I'm talking about things of value, not a fart.
ReplyDeleteYTB and TRAVEL: Something really stinks!
I guess I am a 30 something dinasaur as well.
ReplyDeletePointing and clicking is pretty simple, but again there is a lot more to it than just being able to operate a website. There are weather patterns, time zones, entry requirements, and all sorts of other things to consider. A website will take your money no matter if it's the rainy season, or the hotel is under construction, or there's a huge convention going on. A travel agent will help ensure that your trip is a great value, and that you are in a place that you'll enjoy.
YTB charges for it all....
ReplyDeleteThe Richmond Travel Training event went off without a hitch! Our vendors gave much praise to all the eager and attentive RTAs who participated in the live training seminars. Our RTAs were just as pleased with the well focused vendor trainings. The YTB Store was a huge success. Many new items were introduced and we even sold out of the new style, always popular YTB padfolios the first day of the event. Thank you to all who participated in the Richmond Travel Training Event. We look forward to fleecing you at Funshine East, September 12 & 13, 2008!
Shelly Coppersmith
Vice President of Marketing
YTB Travel Network
So none of the YTB posters here have ever taken any travel training classes? Where's the Anon who's taken 7 classes? Did he/she sleep through them all?
ReplyDeleteOh, my heavens!
ReplyDelete$20 for an event in Richmond, VA!
A business that costs $50 per month and you charge a tax-deductible $20 to attend an event?
Unbelievable, unbelievable.
Such a high price.
Enough to keep the TTAs clucking like hens for the balance of today.
Interesting, though.
TTAs complain ad nauseum about how no RTAs get any training.
Scores of RTAs travel to Richmond for travel training with well-known vendors.
But let's focus on that HUGE $20 price tag . . . not the training.
Cluck, cluck, cluck.
YTB and TRAVEL: A Great Mix!
Yesterday John said..."Wow...40 comments for a non-issue."
ReplyDeleteToday Olescorekeeper says...Wow...17 comments for another regurgitated non-issue."
Well, just as OleScore predicted... leftovers again.
OleScorekeeper
"It's not true that bloging is one damn thing after another. It's the same damn thing over and over."
Anonymous
Well then enlighten us on the training you've all taken. Please let us know your credentials to qualify you to be called a TA in any shape or form. Other then CLIA.
ReplyDeleteYeah Mixed Up - and Ole, Tell us about the travel training you have taken. And I don't care how much you paid for it, I just want to know who it was with and a brief synopsis of what you learned. Is that too much to ask?
ReplyDelete" Scores of RTAs travel to Richmond for travel training with well-known vendors."
What travel training?
How many are 'scores'? Attendees at training schedules should be easily counted as the vendors hand in a report of how many attended each session.
But maybe Ole and Mixed up did not attend? They should still be able to clue us in on their personal professional training. I'm sure they must be first in line to encourage their downlines to pay for/take training as they get something out of it. Right?
Kate said, "Pointing and clicking is pretty simple, but again there is a lot more to it than just being able to operate a website. There are weather patterns, time zones, entry requirements, and all sorts of other things to consider.
ReplyDeleteYeah, like Kate not knowing you can bring a laptop to a Doubletree resort and communicate back to this blog from your hotel room. That was so funny. Some travel training with YTB could have cleared that one up for you Kate. lol!
Sorry Kate..just had to do it! Your previous comment from May 16, 2008 8:26:00 AM..."Another Vendor Shuns YTB"...had me ROTFLMAO.
OleScorekeeper
Hey OldCrotchSniffer,
ReplyDeleteHow much money does your lovely charity actually spend on Cancer Research as opposed to marketing, and administration salaries? My guess is about the same amount of money that Crotch spends on travel training for his slaves.
MCC
Marion-Some Community Colleges offer classes. Ohio University has an online travel agent program. ASTA offers classes and training. Last but not least check out the PATH website and talk to the hosts listed there and ASK them what training they offer.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.pathonline.travel/
Get a job at a Brick and Mortar agency answering the phone or helping out. Good place to start.
Good luck.
"I guess if you are a dinosaur like some TTA's it may be difficult to book online. I am in my 30's and my age group does not need a TTA. Get over it!!!!!"
ReplyDeleteGet over it I don't think so you jerk! I am one of those dinosaurs you are referring to. I use technology and book on-line every day. My office has all the bells and whistles and updated techno gadgets. Stuff you probably can't afford on your measly compensation. What I offer more than booking online is KNOWLEDGE, EXPERIENCE and CUSTOMER SERVICE! Something NONE of you RTA's can ever come close to.
Training might be a dangerous thing for a YTBite. Once they learn how much they give up by being with YTB they just might decide it's in their best interests to move on. But, it looks like no YTBite here has any training on travel ergo - they just sell websites and hope for the best.
ReplyDeleteIn reply to the 30s amateur: If all I had to use to book travel was a YTB website, I'd be out of business. Try Sabre, Amadeus or Worldspan if you want to play with the professionals. You'll get a lot better pricing too...but that's not your objective is it?
ReplyDeleteKarla you are right. Figure the average RTA's pitiful comp plan, what they pay to Coach and the gang and all the extras like training fees and fart fees and what do you have left? Training might just make them question why Coach is tooling around in a private jet and they are eating Ravioli in a can and living in a trailer park...
ReplyDeleteI just don't get it. Why do those in YTB think booking online is something new in this world? I have been booking online for many years, BEFORE YTB was even born. You all act like it's something brand new. Have I used a TTA before...yes I have a few times.
ReplyDeleteThe hens are really cackling today.
ReplyDeleteAs if the TTAs just discovered our business model.
We are not you.
We do not want to be like you.
You have an important place in travel.
I always have said that.
We primarily work with online travel.
You work with the people who want your services.
We work with the people who book travel online.
There is a definite need for what you provide.
And millions are still going to book online by themselves.
You don't like us and never will.
No problem.
My self worth is not validated by the ytbscams and Marthas of the world.
I am very happy with what I do.
Been doing it for over close to 5 years.
And I respect what you do.
You don't understand our business model.
That's fine.
We will just continue on like we have for the past 7 years . . .
Selling more and more travel each year.
YTB and TRAVEL: A Great Mix!
We do not want to be like you.
ReplyDeleteYou have an important place in travel.
I always have said that.
We primarily work with online travel.
That is entirely FALSE!
This was taken from craigslist and this crap is ALL OVER the internet.
"Travel like and insider and earn commission while your on vacation.
o Do you like to travel?
o Do you get paid commissions when you do?
o Is your travel tax deductible?
o Would you like to travel like an insider?"
This is posting is why we are upset and it doesn't even mention booking online just goes on and on about getting the perks and traveling for free.
Mixed Up has no travel training and doesn't need it because he is only a RTA.
ReplyDeleteOkay, fair enough that you don't want to pay for something you don't need. You don't want to be a travel agent, but you feel that you are due the perks that a working agent earns. Not okay. That's why YTB gets the industrys hackles up...YTB RTA's want what they don't deserve. And that's how you get people to join, by promising what you don't deserve.
It should be.
ReplyDeleteNot selling travel = no perks
Not getting training = no perks
Operating a website w/no training or knowledge if client needs = no perks
Do not call yourself a TA at all without any training or service to the client.
Maybe then these hens will stop cackling. But then i'm sure you wouldnt get quite as many suckers to sign up without the perks you all seem to promote.
Hmmm. Seems nobody has any training then. Thats what I thought. So it's ok for you all to call yourself an agent, but have no knowledge of actually being one. I'm going to go on WebMD then call myself a doctor.
ReplyDeleteI've been through training, NO a caveman (as I've read on Doug's blog) cannot do what we do. Simply because an RTA cannot even fathom what it is that we do each day for each and every client. Point and click isn't one of them.
I've earned my titles, I've done the training, I've put 18 years into what I do. I'VE EARNED THE PERKS, whatever ones are left because of the card-mills and BS like this, I do not think any one of you can say the same.
Tell me this. A client goes onto your website, because you told him to save some money or give to some charity instead of booking with an agent. Now the hotel he found/chose is currently under construction, which the website won't tell you, and he gets to the resort and pissed beyond belief that NOBODY/WEBSITE didn't advise him of this. Who's going to help him? You? Or do you pass it off to some nobody who doesn't know the client in headquarters? Thats what we do. We make sure things like that DONT happen, and if something DOES say like hurricane, monsoon, 911 etc..WE ARE THE ONES who help. Not some joe schmoe who knows nothing about the client, who he is, what he paid, how he'll act, what he wants. HOW TO HELP!
We've earned our titles, what pisses us off is the fact that thousands of you are "wanna-bes" pretending to be agents and making a mockery of the industry in doing so. Don't compare yourself to Orbitz, Expedia or the likes..you don't see them "advertising" to the world to "take a paycation", "travel like an insider". At least they show some respect for the industry.
But as you saw from my post last week, and if you read any of the trades, it's pretty clear that the mlm free ride is just about over. The industry has had enough of these untrained freeloaders claiming to be travel agents just to rebate to themselves and take advantage of fams. And given what I have learned from many within the industry, I would expect things to be very different within the next year.
ReplyDeleteThe facts are that the mlms are not providing any service, and the prices are no better than the rest of the on-line companies. The only people that benefit from the mlm are the mlmers themselves. They really provide no value to the average consumer.
Oh please..another TTA in trouble?..and only 5 days ago?
ReplyDeleteTravel Agent Pleads Guilty In Fraud Scam on Thursday, May 15, 2008
YTB - 3
TTA's - Too many.
Olescorekeeper
More crap posted on craigslist your recruiting tool of choice.
ReplyDeleteA real, tangible Home-Based Travel Agency Business you can run from anywhere in the world or from the comfort of your kitchen table!
You can easily earn the right to Discounts on Hotels, Car Rentals, Luxury Cruises, Upgrades, Exotic Vacation Packages and many more travel perks.
Personal Travel Agent Photo ID Card and Credentials
State of the Art Travel Agency in Illinois.
He wasn't even accredited so don't even go there. Anyone can call themselves a travel agent nowdays. You are an ass. While we are off topic ole let's talk about your jail time.
ReplyDeleteOle, We know there are bad apples in the TTA barrel. There are bad apples in the YTB barrel.The bad apples is the TTA barrel don't all work for the same company. The bad apples is YTB do. What's that got to do with training? Just because you don't have or want any could you stick to the subject, for once.
ReplyDeleteIt's reported that this poor TTA said he would make restitution to his victims..investors and customers.. at the tune of more than $450,000. Reservations will be made at the Gray Bar Hotel for up to 25 years. Kate, do they have internet service there? I'll bet you know.
ReplyDeleteOleScorekeeper
eddie said..."Ole, We know there are bad apples in the TTA barrel. There are bad apples in the YTB barrel."
ReplyDeleteRepeat:
YTB Barrel - 3
TTA Barrel - Too many to count.
OleScorekeeper
Deflect, deflect, deflect. Is that a required training class with YTB too. If you can't answer a question deflect it away.
ReplyDeleteOh and Ole its the same Mooresville TA that've you've posted here countless times, its not a new case. And wasn't it found to be that this agency was in fact an MLM?
ReplyDeleteOlescorekeeper, do you have a real life outside of this blog? Seriously, do you?
ReplyDeleteTravelLisa said..."Oh and Ole its the same Mooresville TA that've you've posted here countless times, its not a new case."
ReplyDeleteI only posted it one other time TL and besides, it's an updated story about a TTA who will probably be going on a special, all inclusive, FAM trip soon.
"And wasn't it found to be that this agency was in fact an MLM?"
No. The other TTA arrested was a lady. And I do feel bad about this. Scramming travel agents is a bad mix for all of us. :>(
OleScorekeeper
Notice: OleScore has a policy of NOT responding to Anonymous posts. Sign with your name or monikar and I will consider replying.
Ole, as usual you didn't answer the question. Typical MLM approach.
ReplyDeleteYTB is a crooks haven. One doesn't have to be an RTA to take advantage of that. Your scorekeeping is flawed, and therefore totally unreliable.
Yes there are bad RTAs, and bad TTA but as I said all the bad RTAs work for the same company. And no one at my agency has ever been a bad TTA so
Eddie 0
Ole 3 (or more)
Well, I've asked this before. I would really like to attend a CRTA training to see what it's actually all about. I've been told I can, but I have no way to confirm attendance or know where it is.
ReplyDeleteDearborn Area on May 31, 2008
(Dearborn, MI)
Think I can do it?
From the YTb responses on this subject it is obvious that travel training is not important to YTB.
ReplyDeleteThank you for admitting that by your non responses.
Ann they would probably hog tie you and make you one of the Stepford agents...
ReplyDeleteeddie said,
ReplyDeleteEddie 0
Ole 3 (or more)
Thanks for the nice score Eddie but I think it's better for you to stick to your reservationist job.
OleScorekeeper
I think it's time you got a JOB, Ole. Isn't ripping people off getting a little tiresome?
ReplyDeleteHey, I can make you legit...90% commission split after meeting a reasonable sales goal, IATA card w/all the perks yours for earning 5000.00 in commissions (most of which YOU keep.) Free training, access to my consortium (free), back office support, an 800 number to call if you have questions, Commissions paid once a week, free brochures (just ask)!Heck, I'll even throw in the GDS for free. And, I have more travel skills and knowledge than 99% of YTB put together.
Come on Ole! Here's you chance! You just have to promise never to rip anyone off again.
eddie said..."I think it's time you got a JOB, Ole. Isn't ripping people off getting a little tiresome?"
ReplyDeleteYou know what I think Edward? I think you should go back to your 3X3 cubical, dawn your headset, sign in and start taking calls. I'm sure your reservationist advice is more valuable to the callers then it is here. ;>)
OleScorekeeper
Ole, we already proved that this agent, and the woman who ran off with a bunch of money were both in an mlm. So I think you're gonna have to change your scorekeeping system a bit.
ReplyDeleteBut if you really want to talk about travel scams, has anyone come up with the $48,000 for those poor kids in Tennessee?
This thread was supposed to be about training, or the lack there of. Perhaps you would like to get back to that topic??
Since this blog is about MLMs and Travel, can anyone share a little insight on how YTB's training compares to the training provided by other MLMs, like Traverus, World Ventures, or GTI? Which one provides the best travel training?
ReplyDeleteYeah, how do I go to training?
ReplyDeleteKate Holmes said..."Ole, we already proved that this agent.."
ReplyDeleteSorry Kate..but it's only been said and not "proved" as you say. I've asked for proof of the MLM allegation before but no one has responded. Care to come up with something?
OleScorekeeper
Marion-If you want training go to ASTA's site.
ReplyDelete"Since this blog is about MLMs and Travel, can anyone share a little insight on how YTB's training compares to the training provided by other MLMs, like Traverus, World Ventures, or GTI? Which one provides the best travel training?"
ReplyDeleteNONE of them provide the best training. If you want to be a travel agent someone repsonded to your posts . Go back and read it.
OleScorekeeper said....
ReplyDeleteNotice: OleScore has a policy of NOT responding to Anonymous posts. Sign with your name or monikar and I will consider replying.
So once more, Olescorekeeper, do you have a real life outside of this blog? Seriously, do you?
Ole I posted the link from Google that showed that both of these "agents" were mlm agents many a post ago. The woman was a member of TAN. I forget which one the guy was with. But if it REALLY means that much to you I will dig around and repost the links.
ReplyDeleteIn all fairness Mr Scorekeeper, unless you have the IATA you have no way to prove which side of the fence these crimes are being committed on. Since your crowd comes from Yale or Jail I would say its more likely the crimes are being committed by someone in an mlm. And in case you haven't noticed, we have never posted anything about mlm criminal activity unless there was proof that is was in fact done by an mlmer. We would expect the same courtesy in return.
Yes Ole there are bad agents. There are also bad cops, bad priests, and bad politicians. It happens in every industry. What I find amazing is that it has happened so many times with YTB. I wonder if the company that carries their E&O has dropped them yet??
"Amazing is that it has happened so many times with YTB."
ReplyDeleteWHAT?
2-3 times in the last year?
Out of 140,000 RTAs?
Not so amazing to me.
Only amazing in the eyes of TTAs or bloggers who want to spin to their advantage.
There are bad people wherever you go . . . regardless of occupation or company.
Ever heard of demographics, Kate?
140,000 priests - only 2 or 3 bad ones?
Nope.
140,000 cops - only 2 or 3 bad ones?
Nope.
140,000 politicians - only 2 or 3 bad ones?
Certainly not.
140,000 TTAs - only 2 or 3 bad ones?
You know the answer, Kate.
YTB and TRAVEL: A Great Mix!
Anonymous said...
ReplyDelete"I guess if you are a dinosaur like some TTA's it may be difficult to book online. I am in my 30's and my age group does not need a TTA. Get over it!!!!!"
Then pray-tell why is my clientele almost exclusively 18 to 30 year olds if that age range doesn't need a TTA????? In the first four months of 2008 I booked over $300,000 in sales ... and about 80% of those sales were to 18-30 year olds. As technologically-savvy as that age group is, many DO still need a TA if they are booking more than a simple domestic flight and hotel.
You know what I think, Ole?
ReplyDeleteI think you NEED ytb more than they need you. Pay them, recruit, and flaunt that you really know nothing about travel sales and really don't need to. It's not your bag. MLM is the bag, and travel sales are the hook.
95% of mlm participants fail.
Go for it.
Ann, this is for you:
ReplyDeleteRTA Certification:
Saturday, May 31, 2008
8:00 AM - 3:30 PM
Hyatt Regency Dearborn
600 Town Center Drive
Dearborn, MI 48126
Phone: 618-655-9477 Press Option 2
Your Instructors:
Von Nickleberry
Nick Pagano
Kim Perry
Marcus Murray
James "Bonecrusher" Smith
Bobb Schmitz
Regards,
-- Rod
What's going on inside Rod's head -
ReplyDelete"I'm going to attend that event in Dearborn."
"Wait a minute, I don't think I will".
"I want to go because I like part of YTB."
"I don't want to go because I may not like 100% of what I hear there".
Rod at the event -
"Could this be my sponsor if I REALLY, REALLY decide to re-join YTB?"
"No, he looked at me wrong".
"I do not like YTB now".
"I am going to go home and post my REAL, TRUE thoughts about YTB."
"I am going to humbly apologize to the TTAs so that they like and respect me."
ROD - a true man of principle.
Whoever posted the above is an ass. Yet again you just proved that if you leave YTB that your an outcast. The man is trying to help another "TTA" attend a meeting and see what all the hub-bub really is.
ReplyDeleteGrow the hell up already! Picking on the other kids is so high school. Oh sorry maybe that is still your mentality...or maybe you still are in high school. Seriously, my 7 year old behaves better then some of you.
Hmmm. I thought I had left a comment earlier... But, thanks Rod.
ReplyDeleteTo anon, Rod most likely would not attend this training as it is nowhere near where he lives. Although, I'd be happy to attend with him if he wanted to come (after all, his travel would be tax deductable, right? ;-)). Or maybe you would like to come with me?
Anyone else want to come? I'm thinking there's safety in numbers, you know...
What kind of travel training does Traverus, World Ventures, or GTI provide?
ReplyDeleteNothing worth writing about. If you want proper training go to ASTA.org and become a real agent, not a MLM
ReplyDeleteKate Holmes said...
ReplyDelete"Ole I posted the link from Google that showed that both of these "agents" were mlm agents many a post ago. The woman was a member of TAN. I forget which one the guy was with. But if it REALLY means that much to you I will dig around and repost the links."
Just trying to keep you honest Kate. After all, you did say it was "proven" they were MLM agents. I remember your anonymous post saying she was with TAN. I responded with, "show us a link". You didn't. So yeah, let's have it. No hurry, as I see you are caught up trying to extricate yourself out of the DSA web you spun this morning. Good luck with that one.
In all fairness Mr Scorekeeper, unless you have the IATA you have no way to prove which side of the fence these crimes are being committed on.
IATA? It doesn't matter. These are your brethren traditional travel agents. And have you taken note..most of them are B&M operators which would suggest they are also members of IATA?
Since your crowd comes from Yale or Jail I would say its more likely the crimes are being committed by someone in an mlm.
That certainly would be your hope. Again, no proof..just the word, "likely" from you. Come on Kate, you can do better then that.
And in case you haven't noticed, we have never posted anything about mlm criminal activity unless there was proof that is was in fact done by an mlmer. We would expect the same courtesy in return.
To be fair, I have not posted any media reports about scaming home based travel agents. It's only been your peer group B&M agents I've noted. I'm sure a good many of them have gone from Yale to Jail over the 8 years YTB has been in business.
Yes Ole there are bad agents. There are also bad cops, bad priests, and bad politicians. It happens in every industry. What I find amazing is that it has happened so many times with YTB.
You give us much to much credit Kate. Take a look at the real numbers.
YTB - 134,000 - 3 crooks
TTA's - 80,000 - Too many crooks to count.
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ole should know about crooks and thieves after spending time in the big house.
ReplyDeleteSo signed up for any training yet Ole?
ReplyDeleteMaybe Ole would like to come with me?
ReplyDeleteKate Holmes said...
ReplyDelete"Ole I posted the link from Google that showed that both of these "agents" were mlm agents many a post ago. The woman was a member of TAN. I forget which one the guy was with. But if it REALLY means that much to you I will dig around and repost the links."
I'm still waiting Kate. If I don't hear from you soon, I guess OleScore will have to assume your claim is just another sans fondement deflectere...oui?.
Sorry.
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