Over the past few posts, I have been accused of not knowing how to read dollars and cents on the financial reports provided to the SEC. Most of the criticism has come from a YTB Director (Level 1) who initially told me she earned $63,000 in travel commissions year to date, and was on target to receive $100,000 in commissions for the year. An aggressive final 30 days if I say so myself!
But wait, apparently it is not me who is confused on the numbers at all.
Proud to eb YTB said...This Director wants me to admit I was wrong in my analysis of the YTB financials. I cannot see where I am wrong. People paid into the program and received less. They lost! This Director now claims that it is not "about screwing over your downline" yet admits that the only numbers that matter are the ones in his bank account. Maybe not an outright screwing, but certainly worthy of a cigarette!
I stand corrected on the commissions part. I started out by saying sales, and that is what I truely meant. somewhere along the way, I changed it to commissions.
I do apologize for that.
I will no longer talk about my income. john likes to twist it around anyway.
Let me also point out to you that YTB is NOT about screwing over your downline. YTB is about helping your downline build their teams. This is why when someone has a prospect, I help them bring them into the business. The SAME opportunity exists for EVERYONE!!! My downline can become a director like me... just as I can become a level 2, 3, 4... director like those in my upline.
IF YOU WOULD JUST SHUT UP AND GO TO A MEETING, THEN MAYBE YOU WOULD UNDERSTAND THIS BETTER!!!!!
Now I admitted that I was wrong with the sales/commissions issue. Why don't you admit that you were wrong with a lot of the topics you posted... instead of having me prove you are wrong!!!
My travel sales are in the $60K range and my commissions are in the 30K range. That's all I will say about income...
Again, this "director" is now claiming that of her $60K "range" of travel sales, she is earning $30K in commissions. 50%! Well, if that is true, I think YTB needs to make it clear to everyone that you can earn 50% on your travel sales. I missed the memo.
And please Proud to Be YTB, I could care less how much you make (or don't) on bringing people into the program. We are talking about travel here. I have said from day one that you cannot earn a living selling travel in the MLM model. You have proven it resoundingly. You are a hot shot producer (by your own admission) for YTB and have gone from earning $63K in commissions to supposedly $30K in commissions. Which I believe to be blatantly false. If you sold $100,000 in travel sales the commission to YTB would be in the range of $10,000 and your share (because you are a director) would be $7,000. Again, hardly a living.
You tossed out another number of $30K. I think this number may be accurate for your total bottom line with YTB--travel commissions and referral commissions, etc. I will never know or understand, because as you so eloquently (and professionally I might add) pointed out to me:
IF YOU WOULD JUST SHUT UP AND GO TO A MEETING, THEN MAYBE YOU WOULD UNDERSTAND THIS BETTER!!!!!
OMG John, I spilled my coffee when I read the comment about it not being "an outright screwing but certainly worthy of a cigarette" I am going to keep that one in my little book of hilarious things to say
ReplyDeleteKeep up the good work, all of the real, true, professional travel agents are with you 100% on this
lmao - me too......just chuckling wildly over that Maybe not an outright screwing, but certainly worthy of a cigarette! comment. Too too funny!! and of course, your closing comment got a nice chuckle out of me too ;-)
ReplyDeleteIt's really all unbelievable.
ReplyDeleteSo I think what s/he is saying is that s/he mae $6k - $8k (assuming the commission level) on $63k in sales plus $30k on the sale of memberships/websites? So again, do they sell travel or websites? I suppose this would be a pretty good income as a second one in a two income household out in some rural area, but I could not live on that as a second income in my household! That's WAY too little to be bragging about - even if we give him/her the benefit of the doubt and say the total income from YTB was $40k commission and web site sales combined. Certainly nothing to brag about and certainly NO ONE will get rich on THAT income.
John's post was funny...but Proud's is hilarious!!
ReplyDeleteI'm so confused!! If PTBYTB doesn't know how much she/he is making, then how is suggesting that one of us go to their meeting going to clear it up?? They are in YTB and don't even know how much they make. How are we supposed to understand it? Ya can't make $30,000 in commissions from only $63,000 in sales. Maybe it's that new, fancy YTB math. All the kids are doing it.
ReplyDeleteWhat I find most unbelievable is why anybody would book thru YTB to begin with. Once you're on the internet looking at prices you can always beat theirs. I did on every part of my next vacation...some things by a lot, some things only a little...but YTB was never a better deal for me, the customer.
ReplyDeleteI book a bit of travel for friends and family b/c they know I'll take the time to find the best deal...sometimes it's online and sometimes it's with a travel agent (real one, that is) but I haven't yet found a better deal with YTB. Because of the travel I book is why my insurance agent tried to recruit me...but if I had a site and my friends and family thought I was making a commission off of them...they'd be looking for kickbacks!
I would say YTB is not the cheapest, but they are competitive. As an example, I had a friend looking to book an airline flight, made a comparison of YTB and Expedia. This was done at the same time. YTB was about $12.00 more then Expedia. But it's my understanding that Expedia charges a $5.00 service charge. So not big deal, Expedia was $7.00 cheaper.
ReplyDeleteHere's the interesting part. Both browsers remained open for about 15 minutes after we compared prices. We went ahead to the billing portion on Expedia and a note came up on the screen, saying "Sorry" with wording that said the price was no longer valid and, in fact, had risen almost $100 dollars more then the earlier quote. We went to YTB and went to the billing screen for the flight and the price stayed exactly the same. So...timing means a lot in this business.
Another interesting example. A fellow employee did the same comparison booking with YTB and Expedia. This time it was a round trip flight to Sweden eight months in advance. First he got the YTB price, which he said was "very good". Then he tried the Expedia price. None of the flights appearing could be booked. It said something they all were "unavailable". We tried all the flights listed. But YTB was ready for him to book now. I'm not sure why this happened but it is interesting to make comparison's as long as they are done at the same moment in time.
I think this might have something to do with a post over on TW where it shows the booking date and the res date as being one day off from each other.
ReplyDeleteMaybe YTB is not using realtime inventory in the "mainframe"? I also think (not sure) that for internationsl, YTB utilizes a consolidator and not the WTC engine. If so, the ticket likely would have been highly restricted.
Air prices going up--all the time. I proved a ticket after Xmas to Bolivia and it was $2798 and by the time I went to issue it the space was gone on one leg and the client was forced into business and a new fare of $3999. Happens all the time!
HERE IS POST FROM ANOTHER BLOG WHICH GIVES GOOD REASON TO BOOK WITH A CLICK AND ORDER RATHER THEN A BRICK AND MORTOR.
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Recently I have been trying to book a ticket for going to India in late March. Only when I started the process I found out how frustrating it is. Many travel agents don't even respond to your calls; some are very unhelpful and some are plain rude.
I thought that it would be great to compile a list of travel agents that each of us have come across. We can rank them as good, bad or ok. We can also furnish the name and contact number of the good agents so other members can make use of them. What do you all think?
Here are the folks I tried...
Skypass Travels, Austin
Horrible. I called and it went to voicemail. No one called back.
Royal Travels, Dallas
Painful to deal with. Everytime I call, I have to start from scratch on who I am.
"SOME ARE PLAIN RUDE"
Now that wouldn't be one of the qualities of any of the traditional travel agents on this blog, or would it?
Why would I want a "competitive" price when it's just as easy to book the same product for a cheaper price? The other day I was looking for a hotel in WDW and got some prices...then just to see I went to YTB...it showed hotels I just looked at as being Sold Out.
ReplyDeleteAnd to add to my previous post...my insurance agent isn't speaking to me anymore...mention the word 'pyramid' and watch a YTBer go ballistic...lol...
You know what--it very well could be! Fortunately YTB does not have the problem because they offer no method to contact them.
ReplyDeletePerhaps that is the plan--if they are not allowed to talk to clients, the clients cannot claim they were rude---or ignorant (by definition)
My YTB agent called me right back every time when she was trying to get me to a meeting,,,when I asked her for a price on the Nickelodeon Hotel (not available on her YTB site) I never heard back...
ReplyDeleteI guess there's ...what?...money in recruiting...not in booking hotels?
NEWS FLASH!!!!!!!!!!!
ReplyDeleteWell it appears back-stabbing Lisa Bauer has been demoted!
After a tough love session at RCCL she was demoted to Senior Vice President of Hotel Operations.
OR,
Did Lisa Bauer request the move to get herself out of the spotlight?
- Did Lynn Martenstein not like how she was "communicating" the Royal Caribbean brand?
- Did Royal Caribbean not realize they terminated $23 Million in sales between Joystar and YTB alone?
- Did Royal Caribbean error in how this was going to play out with Carnival coming to bat for YTB stranding Royal Caribbean at sea?
TW believes it's possible that RCCL and YTB may reform their relationship.
Let's just wait and see.
Anonymous said...
ReplyDeleteNEWS FLASH!!!!!!!!!!!
Well it appears back-stabbing Lisa Bauer has been demoted!
After a tough love session at RCCL she was demoted to Senior Vice President of Hotel Operations.
OR,
Did Lisa Bauer request the move to get herself out of the spotlight?
- Did Lynn Martenstein not like how she was "communicating" the Royal Caribbean brand?
- Did Royal Caribbean not realize they terminated $23 Million in sales between Joystar and YTB alone?
- Did Royal Caribbean error in how this was going to play out with Carnival coming to bat for YTB stranding Royal Caribbean at sea?
TW believes it's possible that RCCL and YTB may reform their relationship.
Let's just wait and see.
This is pretty ridiculous. She takes over a division that is ten times the size. Lynn Martenstein is a VP (not a SVP) and is basically the spokesperson for RCCL. RCCL knows exactly what they did. Hold your breath on them begging for you to come back...
"TW believes it's possible that RCCL and YTB may reform their relationship."
ReplyDeleteWhere is TW reporting that? And it's not a demotion - she is now still a Sr. Vice President but now in charge of a much bigger department.
they lost no money - I'm sure their bookings stayed exactly the same during the 24 hour YTB Sale with no pain at all.
And you're a ridiculous fool if you think the decision to cut you all out was made by her alone and not in counsel with higher-ups. Grow up.
Lisa Bauer was not demoted. Some of you really need some business training.
ReplyDeleteUSE "CLICK & ORDER" TO AVOID THIS!
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Travel Agent hasn't paid cruise line
Has anyone else had this problem? We're traveling on the Disney Magic on July 30th. I called yesterday to book some excursions and make some dinner reservations and was told that there was still a balance on the cruise. We paid off the cruise to the Travel Agent on April 7th! It was too late yesterday to call the Travel Agent, but today they're gonna get an earful. Any other suggestions on how to handle this? Should I get Disney Cruise Lines involved in this? BTW the Travel Agent is Cruise Adventures in Fresno, CA.
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This happens all too often. I paid a travel agent for airline tickets to Europe via a consolidator. (While I'm usually anti-agent, sometimes agents can get deals we the traveling public can't. The consolidator in question only deals with agents.) But the agent took my money and failed to buy the tickets. She "forgot." By the time she realized her mistake the price had almost doubled. She wanted me to eat the $1,000 difference. Yeah, right! After much haranguing I got the agency to honor their agent's mistake. But they acted like they were doing me a favor!
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A travel agent in our town absconded with the money leaving about 10 people stuck at the pier. You may want to check to see if the agent is still visible!!
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My very well known agency didn't pay Princess cruises after I reserved some 6 months in advance and paid for cancellation insurance. Princess cancelled my cabin a month from cruise date.
WE COULD GO ON AND ON AND ON-------
"Lisa Bauer was not demoted. Some of you really need some business training."
ReplyDeleteWell she wasn't exactly PRO-moted.
I've had business training, it was what I went to grad-school for. Weird, though, I never once met a travel agent. Oh, right, they go to those "other" business schools. Very prestigious from what I hear.
When it comes down to it, the everyday consumer is better off doing their own travel. They'll get screwed online AND in-house.
If people are stupid enough to get scammed over and over again with MLM, why are you worried? They'll fade away and you "real" travel agents can go riding into the sunset together. Then, in five years when you no longer exsist, you can make blogs about how the internet is at fault. It's worse then the thought that "gay people getting married ruins the sanctity of marriage." Seriously? These people are ruining it for travel agents? Think again, realistically this time, it's been obvious for YEARS that the travel agency business is falling off the Earth.
Really all I notice on the site is bitter angry people attacking one another over who does math right or who has the most travel "skills."
Here's what it comes down to: neither side is better. Each has it's own "bad apples." I've never seen the term "grow up" more in my life coming from each side.
I expected this from John. Any way he cak get a backlash in... he will do it.
ReplyDeleteSo, i made a simple error in my postings... but since i posted it anyway, I did over 63K in travel SALES. There I said it... SALES!!!
Also, for the record... again... I am a guy. john is so confused that he can't figure out the difference between male and female.
And to clarify... yas I said clarify why YTB has more profit that the RTAs do. Naturally, if the RTAs had more profit that YTB, then YTB would go belly-up.
Now the reason for these profits are not just from the sale of travel websites and travel commissions. It's also from the cost of training. As the RTAs earn more $ whether it be from travel or marketing... or both, the ones who are truely in it for selling travel... like myself... take more and more courses! Classes aren't free!!
Also, there was a comment about not being able to contact a YTB agent for help, and that the RTAs aren't supposed to deal with the clients 1 to 1. That's the biggest pile of BS I ever heard!
i have said it many times that my name, number and e-mail address is on my website! Everyone in my downline has their website set up the same exact way!!!
I DO call the vendors and make offsite sales. When I do this, i am provided with the reservation and confirmation #. I then go into my back office and submit a "commission claim form". This gives me credit for the travel sale and ensures that I DO receive a commission check in the mail.
Now, there should no longer be any more confusion. If there is, then you should take your heads out of your asses! BTW John.. Johanna... you can quote me on that. I know you will anyway.
And for cta in MD, the $30K income from the marketing side is what I make MONTHLY... not annualy. if you can't live off of $30K a month... EVERY MONTH something is definately wrong with you!
Now, that's clarified as well!!! I can't apologize that you can't make that much money with your job. You see... it's not my fault.
When you retire and live off of the government which will only pay you HALF of what you make... while the cost of living keeps going up... I will be living richly until the day I die. My kids will also live this way... and my grandkids (when I have some)... because my income is 3 generational. my kids and grandkids may not be of YTB, but they will be very very well off.
Can you say that about your kids and grandkids? I think not!
Face it! What I have is far better than you will ever have, and this makes you angry and highly jealous! I don't understand why, because you could have it too if you would only let go of your "stinkin thinkin"!
Yes, I know it's spelled "stinking" and "thinking".
We lear the EXACT same things you do!!! The training is EXACTLY the same!
ReplyDeleteThe only difference between YTB and the "traditionals" are that YTB is growing... while the "traditionals are gradually fading away... or joining YTB. BTW.. They are joining! In my doownline alone, there are 4 (that I know of) who were
once "traditional" travel agents. One of which, I personally signed on. The doors of her travel agency slammed shut for the last time, and she knew of me... and came to me asking about YTB. I brought her to a meeting, and she did not hesitate to sign up. She now has just over 100 people in her downline.
Granted, when i moved to this town, there were 5... count them... 5 B&M travel agencies in my town. Now there are only 2... and one of them is AAA. The other one, I expect to close down by the midde of next year. How sad.
Ladies and gentlemen---Proud to be YTB has shown me the light and I am hereby changing my position--NOT!
ReplyDeleteNor am I going to kiss his ...well, I will let him handle the curse words.
But the post is so idiotic.
The statement about YTB going belly up is just foolish. On my part, it may be wishful thinking but what he is saying is that for YTB to survive, the Reps and RTAs must lose money.
So where does YTB make their money---sales and rentals of websites, travel commissions, marketing materials, and a little form "other". Now all but the commissions and the "other" are directly paid by the Reps and RTAs.
When commissions and "other" represent such a small portion (16%)of their income, it is a losing game for MOST of the Reps and RTAs.
Now, if YTB had sold $226M in travel and showed $22.6M in commissions, MAYBE they might have a chance. But they did not and you don't.
You people need to wake up and smell the coffee. Most are going to fail. The numbers are the numbers.
Once again, you are supposedly entering into a business opportunity to make money. Right? You invest in the business in some manner (fees, rentals, training, etc.), you market and sell the product, and earn a commission. This is bringing it down to the most basic level.
If I sell a cruise and make $1000 commission, and it cost me $1500 to market it...did I make any money? If it cost me $500 to market it, did I make any money?
OK so look at the past 9 months on YTB. You (Reps and RTAs) have earned a total commission (travel commission, business sales commission, bonuses, over rides, the whole shebang)of $64,768,795.
Now, excluding any overhead expenses such as insurance, taxes, health insurance, telephone, cell phone, car leases, business cards, computers, internet access expenses, travel expenses, etc.) it has cost you $79,395,765 to market that sale. That number comes from the total fees paid for sales and rentals of the websites and training and marketing--the money YOU put into the program. Travel commissions are paid by someone else.
So let's assume this is one really big trip. The client pays you $64,768,795. And then you write a check to the vendor for $79,395,765. Is that a winner in anyone's book besides Proud To Be YTB?
To me it looks like it cost you $14,626,970. Now to make up that kind of loss, you are gonna have to hustle a LOT of travel. In a good year, my office will SELL that amount. I cannot imagine having to make up that kind of loss. But thankfully, YTB has 136,000 people to absorb it so the loss is only $107 per person.
Proud To Be YTB--you have been the most vocal on these comments. You are sounding more and more foolish as the days go by. You have proven nothing but your ignorance. You have bought the YTB pitch hook line and sinker and are merely spewing forth anything and everything that you can to justify your lack of due diligence.
If YTB has selected, elected, or allowed you the right to represent them as a Director and a leader of their company, I think that most people would have to look at that and question the decision.
You confuse sales and earnings. You are constantly changing your reasoning with every subsequent post. A fellow YTBer also said that he or she doubted you were a director, and said that he or she was certain that HQ would not approve of your posting like that.
You have proven zero and as much as you might enjoy it, I am not gonna kiss anything
One more thing... John here talks about professionalism...
ReplyDeleteThat's a laugh! John, you are so unprofessional! Your topics and the way you talk to people prove that! In the begining, I tried to be professional with you... but how can one be professional with someone who shows absolutely no class. I have more class in my small toe than you do in your whole body. You have absolutely NO idea what I did for living before YTB. all I disclosed of it was that I make in 2 months with YTB what used to take me a whole year to make with my old career... and in that old career, I made $65K... which was quite well... and quite livable, but now taxes are on the rise, property insurance is on the rise... health insurance is through the roof (which I don't have to worry about anymore).
My property taxes are triple what it used to be 2 years ago!
Homeowner's insurance.. being in Florida... is more than double!
After paying that, I would be living off of 53K a year...
Wait! I forgot about health, dental and life insurance for myself and the family.
That would take my income down to $49K!!!
I became a person with an above average career who was forced to live an average life. I just couldn't live like that! I haven't lived like that since I got out of college. I felt as if instead of moving forward, i was gradually being pushed back. When I got my promotion to Director with YTB, I put in my resignation at my old job. my boss actually begged me to reconsider. I aske him for a raise in salary, and he said that he couldn't. Out the door I went, and I have never been happier!
No more waking up at 5:30 to be at work by 8:00!
No more leaving work at 5:00 and getting home by 8:00... 8:30ish!
No more commute!
I get to spend time with my family! I can go to school events! I was able to attend my son's baseball games, and my daughter's plays and recitals!
I can enjoy my wife's cooking without either having her cook late... or having to microwave what she has cooked for herself and the kids!
As a father and a husbamd, this means more to me than anything else ever could!
You can say anything you want to about YTB, but I can say that it has greatly improved the quality of my life as well as that of my family!
What this boils down to...
Cost of a business: under $500
monthly income: I've stated this above
Spending time with the family: PRICELESS!!!
John, you are a shamefully bitter man. I actually feel quite sorry for you. You have much fear, animosity, and probably are most worried about your future. You are a good man, I'm sure. Maybe things will change for you some day. Keep smiling and do the right thing!
ReplyDeleteOne evening an old man told his grandson about a battle
ReplyDeletethat goes on inside people. He said, "My son, the battle
is between the two "wolves" inside us all.
One is Evil. It is anger, envy, jealousy, sorrow, regret,
greed, arrogance, self-pity, guilt, resentment, inferiority,
lies, false pride, superiority, and ego.
The other is Good. It is joy, peace, love, hope, serenity,
humility, kindness, benevolence, empathy, generosity, truth,
compassion and faith."
The grandson thought about it for a minute and then asked
his grandfather: "Which wolf wins?"
Grandpa simply replied, "The one you feed."
Think about it...
Also... The monet the RTAs spend on training is because they WANT to succeed. Granted, there may be RTA expenditures, but once an RTA pays for a course 1 time,(keeping in mind that they don't have to take them all)... they no longer have to pay for the course. It's the same way as when you went to school and paid for your courses to be a travel agent.
ReplyDeleteHere you keep saying thet RTAs are losing money. You compare total company earnings with RTA earnings. The only way people actually lose money is if they get into the business and do absoutely NOTHING!
I say that the total company earnings had better be more that the RTA earnings! This isn't the case just for YTB... it's for any and every company inthe corporate world! A company had better be making enough money to pay their associates.
If I was losing money, I wouldn't be here fighting for YTB. If others weren't making money, they would also be opting out.
As far as looking foolish goes, you're entitled to your opinion. there are plenty of people here that can say that you are being just as foolish... if not more. You claim you know all about YTB, and yet you haven't gone to a single meeting. It's like you're the Brittish army marching over the hill... not realizing that General Washington has his army poised on the other side waiting to ambush. In other words, you are going off half cocked with very little info from the start. I tried to teach you some things about YTB, but instead of learning, you allow your anti-YTB agenda twist it all around.
Like I said, You have your opinion. You have your followers... Bravo!
You just don't have all the info... and probaly never will until you are willing to open your mind and get rid of the "stinkin thinkin" so you can learn.
Proud--I want to be clear, I am not attacking you personally. I am vehemently questioning your decisions and the information you put forth.
ReplyDeleteI began a blog with my opinions and you chose to come here and voice yours. I appreciate that.
I have honestly tried to remain as professional as I can. You are only privy to what you see here. You are not seeing emails and so forth. So pardon me if my professionalism slipped a bit.
You say I don't understand. I say I do. We have opposing viewpoints and we ought to be able to work with that. But unless you can refute what I am saying, do not come forth telling me to kiss your ass and proclaiming that you proved everything I have posted as false. You have done no such thing.
I am VERY glad that you are successful and YTB is working for you. It is working for a bunch of people. It is not working(nor will it work) for the majority.
I am all about the family life. Owning my own business is the greatest thing for me--same reasons, baseball, plays, gymnastics, horse shows, and on time dinners. You are preaching to the choir and family travel is a niche I have specialized in for a long time.
I hope that when you attack here, you are attacking my positions and my arguments and not the person. I am not attacking you--it is your positions and arguments. I just want to be clear on that!
John, i am not telling you to kiss my ass, and I have stated before that I am not attacking you personally.
ReplyDeleteWhen you go and put up new topics singling me out, that is an attack. People have the ability to read a topic without having someone having to post a point made... right or wrong in a new topic. I made a mistake while posting. I replaced the word "travel sales" with travel Commissions", and i didn't catch myself on to until after it was pointed out to me (without a new topic being made on it). You continued to attack against my sincere apology. yes, I did feel like a fool enough just from my unintentional mistake.
Also, after I told you continuously that I am a guy, you still refer to me as "she" and "her". that's an insult... also an attack.
John, I am sure that you are a good person outside this "war", and personally, I really don't have any animosity towards you. We just share different views, and we should keep in mind that's all they are... different views. You are fighting for the traditional travel agents, and I am fighting for YTB.
Proud - John continues to refer to you as a female on purpose...to keep stirring the pot, to get you upset, to get you to keep posting. Childish and unprofessional, he loves to continue these arguements and will never leave it until he has the last word.
ReplyDelete....Nickelodeon Hotel (not available on her YTB site)
ReplyDeleteThat is an outright lie.
http://www.res99.com/nexres/search/search_results.cgi?interstitial=done&tab=tab0&src=10009590&src_aid=YTB197892&avail=Y&num_rooms=1&bed_type=NP&num_beds=1&smoking_pref=NP¤cy_id=&city=Orlando&state=&country=US&num_adults=1&doa_mm=12&doa_dd=20&doa_yy=2007&dod_mm=12&dod_dd=22&dod_yy=2007&sort_order=Alphabetical&hotel_Alpha=SFTNKEVQMCLAJOWP9BHDRIGU&sort_group=N
Here's what that link got me...
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It's not a lie...I couldn't find it with the YTB search...it did come up when I used the hotels.com link...but I can go to hotels.com to do that.
elemenohpee -
ReplyDeleteJust FYI for you - I have a MHSA - Master of Health Service Administration (the actual initials have changed since 1990 when I finished that program) from the George Washington Univeristy School of Business (before it was renamed the Elliot School....). It is essentially, and MBA with concentration in large healthcare organization administration - please note "large" and "organization adminsiration". I got married and decided it would be nice to not work 60 hours a week and not carry a pager - yes, I took a pay cut but now as a Professional Travel Agent - unlike you - I earn much, much more than I ever did. Funny, I work about 40 hours a week, make more than I did before and still manage to provide service to my clients before, during, and after the sale (unlike your particular brand of "Click and Order"). More than 50% of Travel Agents are like me - college and/or graduate degreed, seeking a career change - the smart ones do it right.
Me no like to brag but me only have high school degree...never went to Univeristy but still i is good at organization amcineration...and speling
ReplyDeleteHey a typo is a typo - it's elem...whatever pulling the "I have a business degree" crapola.
ReplyDeleteI cut and pasted the link and it worked. But if you can get to a YTB booking site, do your Orlando hotel search, sort by hotel name, and there it is -- Nickelodeon Family Suites by Holiday Inn.
ReplyDeletebtw: King suite, ns, in 12/20, out 12/22 - $195pn -- same as Expedia, Hotels.com, Travelocity, Orbitz, and hotel site directly.
Ok thanks...it looks like I should cut out the middle man and just book directly with the hotel.
ReplyDeleteI already called them and they said "no IATA card, no discount".
Do you mean IATAN card? I don't think there is an IATA card.
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