The woman in the post below faxed me the contracts and it seems simple enough to get out to me. The contract, as expected, exonerated YTB of pretty much any and everything. They do tell everyone that they need to comply with any and all local laws--so they are good.
The one thing that bothered me was that any customers that register on the site or book travel belong solely to YTB. I guess since the RTA is merely referring customers, they belong to the agency, but then again, most of the RTAs that have been commenting swear that they are an agent. And as an agent, I would be damned if I would give up my client list like that.
And totally unrelated, I find it odd that there were not any more comments on post regarding looking at the YTB money trail from a different point of view! Perhaps there is nothing that can be refuted?
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Money trail that can't be refuted...Hummmmm.
ReplyDeleteJohn, you've twisted these number all sorts of ways and its old. Personally, I'm just tired of reading how it works this way...no wait...it works that way...no wait...it's this way.
Travel is not paid until the travel has taken. It's impossible for you or anyone else to figure out an average, and trying to do so in commission sales is foolish. If you work this business you get paid. If you sit and do nothing...you get nothing. Nobody is limited to any average in commission sales and since I would assume you also work on commission the same way we do selling travel, you know that. Oh that’s right…we’re MLM, so it’s different, right?
What a joke.
I have a number of bookings for next spring and summer that will start producing travel checks. In the meantime...I've started to build a team, just one or two per month.
It takes time to learn, market and then sell travel.
If you want to find out how much you can make in YTB why don't you just bite the bullet and sign up. If $500 is too much for someone like you...you need to give some serious consideration about your poor financial situation.
John curious. We keep reading about your professional travel agents ripping off customers, two more this week, I believe, what is
ReplyDeleteyour conventional travel agents, private card clubs and media doing to see that these customers are made whole again. I mean it's been happening for years, is their a fund, like the real estate industry has in California, to replace monies lost in SCAMS and SCHEMES and ILLEGAL PYRAMIDs performed by conventional agents?
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EAB--old news as I said before. Yes, we do have our share of bad eggs and you do as well. My major reasons for my opinions on the MLM model have nothing to do with ripping off consumers financially. To reiterate:
ReplyDelete1. Minimally rained people are posing as travel agents and giving the consumer the false impression that they are qualified
2. These same agents are utilizing discounted travel and FAM trips as personal vacations and participating in unprofessional behavior including soliciting clients on trips, soliciting other agents, etc.
3. The suppliers are being duped. For the amount of people involved, there should be a lot more revenue from the MLM group. The numbers indicate that very few people involved with MLM sell any reasonable amount of travel. And most of the travel sold is inconsequential enough to indicate that it was personal travel and not travel to consumers. Why are suppliers paying commission and offering marketing support to someone like that?
There are a few other issues, but those are the main ones.
Hey, Cruise Planners is hiring people off the streets to become cruise professionals! No experience necessary!!!
ReplyDeleteLike I said... YTB TRAINS as well!!!
Get off our back! Everyone has to start from somewhere, and that doesn't exclude the traditional travel agents who think they are so much better than everyone else! They say, "You can't be an RTA, it hurts the travel industry!"
Actually, it doesn't hurt the travel industry at all. It just hurts you... just like Travelocity, Expedia, Orbitz, Hotels.com, and cheaptickets.com does!!!
"Hey, Cruise Planners is hiring people off the streets to become cruise professionals! No experience necessary!!!"
ReplyDeleteCruise Planners isn't "hiring" anyone - they are a franchise, and there is a nice contract to sign and a sometimes hefty fee for joining, especially if you have no experience.
Cruise Planners IS hiring!
ReplyDeleteThis is taken directly off the Cruise Planners website!
Cruise Planners started in 1994 when three travel industry veterans joined forces to create a cadre of franchised travel agents to book cruises out of their own homes. The ideal appealed to people from many walks of life; teachers, real estate agents, travel agents, car mechanics, virtually anyone and everyone who was interested in starting an in-home business while providing an opportunity to travel around the world.
You can't doubt something that is posted on a company's website!!!
And... yes, they are hiring people off the streets. The only difference between them and YTB is that YTB has a compensation marketing plan.... and it costs less to join YTB... and YTB handles more than just cruises!!!
YTB trains just as well as any other travel compny out there.
they are soliciting IC's, no employees.
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