Tuesday, May 13, 2008

What Happened?


First the Olympics, then Dickinson, and now this? What is going on, seems like nothing is as it seems at YTB! What is the reasoning behind this one? Maybe it was not exclusive? Maybe it was a rip off? Maybe it was impractical? Maybe as Ted Lindauer suggested it was illegal?

But the part I like the best is how YTB stands behind the programs it sold. For those who purchased the program, deal with LVI exclusively.

This was reported in this week's Biz Report!

YTB DISCONTINUES
YTB FLY FREE PROGRAM

YTB has discontinued the YTB Fly Free Program. The links have been removed from the website. While we will not be selling memberships any longer, those who have purchased the program will be able to use the balance of their 12 month membership through LVI exclusively.

51 comments:

  1. Oops...just chalk it up to another screw up by leaders that have no industry experience.

    Next thing you know they will be offering discounted vacations when you buy from the seedy time share salespeople in Mexico!

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  2. So, they discontinued a program that wasn't working?
    Seems like another good business decision.
    Why make a big deal over a discontinued item. Every company discontinues stuff. I have a friend that owns a puzzle company. Here is a list of their discontinued items. Should we assume that the puzzle makers don't know about the puzzle business because they discontinued something?
    The Following Philos Puzzles: Cube Without a Limit, Conway Cube I Puzzle, Conway Cube II Puzzle, Escott Sliding Puzzle, Noris Cube, Penta Pack Puzzle, Triangle Prism Puzzle (Rollen Dreieck), Trotzklotz Puzzle, Yum Yum Puzzle

    All One Drawer Jewelry Boxes

    Walnut Dog Bone Secret Box

    Walnut Dog Bone Secret Box

    Cherry Zoid Secret Box

    Padauk Bow Tie Secret Box

    Paduak Zoid Secret Box

    The Following Kumiki Puzzles; Motorcycle,Lion Kumiki Puzzle, Lucky Cat kumiki, Deer kumiki, Parts of Cow kumiki, Horse kumiki, mini, Pig kumiki, mini, Sparkle Burr kumiki, mini, Black & White Burr, Bright Star Burr, 39 Piece Cage Kumiki Puzzle, Ball-in-a-cage kumiki, mini, Great Pagoda, 9 pieces, Sphere kumiki, medium, Cube kumiki, medium, Cube kumiki, large, Diamond kumiki, medium, Diamond kumiki, large, Barrel kumiki, large, 6 balls in cages, Magnum kumiki, Robot kumiki puzzle - small, Five Storied Pagoda kumiki, small, Japanese Hotel Bank kumiki, Castle Kumiki, Steam Locomotive, small, Rocket kumiki, Space Shuttle kumiki, Dog kumiki, Penguin kumiki - large, and Penguin kumiki - small

    Wilderness Woods Jelery Chests; Hummingbird (1 and 2 Drawers), Floral/Butterfly, Rose

    Heartwood's Tic-Tac-Toe and Deluxe Tic-Tac-Toe

    Pocket Clock - Teak

    Pocket Clock - Padauk

    Pocket Clock - Mini - Teak

    Pocket Clock - Mini - Padauk

    14 Move 6 Sun Japanese Puzzle Box - Saya Yosegi pattern - Yamanaka Kumiki

    Heartwood's Sidewinder Boxes

    Heartwood's Ladybug Puzzle Box

    Zora’s 3D Puzzle - small, colored

    3D Puzzle- Extremely Complex

    16 Piece Zig Zag Puzzle

    3D Puzzle - Complex

    Chaos Tiles

    Mystic Pyramid Puzzle

    Spin Box #1 - Maple With Top Diamond Inlay

    Floral Jewelry Chest - 2 Drawer

    Rose Border Jewelry Chest - 2 Drawer

    Horses Jewelry Chest

    Madera Valet

    Cascade II Jewelry Box - Sapphire

    Continuos 3 Track Cribbage Board - Cherry

    27 Move 5 Sun Okiyama - San Masterwork

    27 Move 5 Sun Ran Yosegi Puzzle Box

    Sidewinder Box #2 - Walnut

    Elaphant Puzzle

    11 Move "New Move" 5 Sun Japanese Puzzle Box - Red

    11 Move "New Move" 5 Sun Japanese Puzzle Box - Black

    Gossip Illusion Postcard

    Stamp Dispenser - Padauk

    Stamp Dispenser - Walnut

    Stamp Dispenser - Cherry

    Pocket Clock Pivot Box - Zebrawood

    Knock & Roll Box #1

    Knock & Roll Box #2

    Teak Domino Game - Medium

    Padauk Domino Game - Medium

    Game Box Cribbage Set #1

    Game Box Cribbage Set #2

    3 Track Cribbage Board #1 - Maple

    Padauk Compass with key chain

    Wooden Twister Puzzle #2

    Wooden Twister Puzzle #1

    Hedgehog in a Cage Puzzle - Metal

    Hedgehog in a Cage Puzzle- Wooden

    Cleverwood T-Shirts

    Rainbow Puzzle - Large

    23 Move 6 Sun Ran Japanese Puzzle Box

    10 Move 6 Sun Utamaro Japanese Puzzle Box

    Madera Valet Jewelry Box

    Dovetail Burr Puzzle

    Four Corners Burr Puzzle

    Elephant Burr Puzzle

    KAO Puzzle

    Aleph Puzzle

    Deluxe Hidden Latch Box

    Donkey’s Tail Puzzle Box

    25 Piece Zig-Zag Puzzle

    9 Piece Zig-Zag Puzzle

    4 Piece Zig-Zag Puzzle

    Double Jack Puzzle

    Cat Puzzle Puzzle

    All Hammersmith Boxes

    Froggie Puzzles

    Fractiles - 7

    23 Move 6 Sun - Maru

    27 Move 5 Sun - Kaminarifuji

    Meadow Jewlery Box, big, with jewelery inserts

    Meadow Jewlery Box, big, no inserts

    Meadow Jewlery Box, small, with jewelery inserts

    Meadow Jewlery Box, small, no inserts

    Rock-It Box #3 Burl Redwood

    Star II Burr Puzzle

    Cluster Buster Burr Puzzle

    Burl Puzzle Box - D

    Fractal Puzzle

    4 Piece Zig-Zag Puzzle - mini

    Tetralot Puzzle Puzzle

    Pyramidon Puzzle

    Double Tail Knot Puzzle

    7 move 4 sun Sakura Japanese Puzzle Box

    Soma in Babylon Puzzle

    Zome Tool - Bubbles Kit

    Zome Tool - Adventure Kit

    Zome Tool - Advanced Math Creator Kit

    Lantern kumiki - medium

    Camel kumiki

    66 Move Japanese Puzzle Box (Okiyama)

    54 Move Japanese Puzzle Box (Okiyama)

    Second Stellation (Coffin)

    Scorpius (Coffin)

    Hexagonal Prism (Coffin)

    Pennydoodle (Coffin)

    Globe Pyramid Puzzle

    Missing Link Puzzle

    Gem Cut Burr Puzzle

    The Art of Making Small Wooden Boxes

    Wave Goodbye puzzle - (K. Malcolmson)

    Star Jack puzzle - (K. Malcolmson)

    Star Cluster puzzle - (K. Malcolmson)

    Reptiles puzzle - (K. Malcolmson)

    Rattlin’ Roller - (K. Malcolmson)

    Pyramid puzzle - (K. Malcolmson)

    Jumbo Elephant puzzle - (K. Malcolmson)

    Jigsaw Top Box - (K. Malcolmson)

    Gingerbread Kids - (K. Malcolmson)

    Voluptuous Valentine box - (K. Malcolmson)

    Crescent Moon box - (K. Malcolmson)

    12 Move 3.8 sun Japanese Puzzle Box - Okiyama

    2 Move 2 sun Coin Bank Japanese Puzzle Box

    18 Move miniature (mame) Japanese Puzzle Box - Okiyama

    14 Move miniature (mame) Japanese Puzzle Box - Okiyama

    4 Move 2 sun Japanese Puzzle Box

    String Disentanglement Puzzles (Kathleen)

    Star Ball Burr

    Simple Scorpio (Coffin)

    Star II Burr - exotic

    Convolution (Coffin)

    Vega 9 (Coffin)

    Diagonal Cube (Coffin)

    Peanut (Coffin)

    Rosebud (Coffin)

    Queer Gear (Coffin)

    Triangular Prism (Coffin)

    The Fence

    Hardwood Bookmark

    7 Piece Firecracker Puzzle

    10 Piece Firecracker Puzzle

    4 Move Cube - Okiyama Masterwork Japanese Puzzle Box

    54 Move Kuroasa- Okiyama Masterwork Japanese Puzzle Box

    54 Move Kisaya- Okiyama Masterwork Japanese Puzzle Box

    18 Move Dual Compartment Japanese Puzzle Box

    27 Move - Kaminarifuji 4 sun Japanese Puzzle Box

    Twin Towers

    Concentration is the Key

    Triple Torment

    Captive Key Maze

    Bewildering Brass Bolt

    Spark Plug

    Great Pagoda

    Window Pain

    The Rook

    The Pawn

    Sputnik Cube

    Kamei Crown Box - licensed copy

    Kamei Pentagon Box - licensed copy

    Kamei Octagon Box - licensed copy

    Kamei Dice Box - licensed copy

    Kamei Book Box - licensed copy

    Kamei Ribbon Box - licensed copy

    Kamei Treasure Chest Box - licensed copy

    Kamei CUBI Box - original

    59 Move 6 sun Japanese Puzzle Box

    16 Move 5 sun Japanese Puzzle Box

    21 Move 7 sun Japanese Puzzle Box

    Man the Torpedo

    Sixth Sense

    Take-It-Apart

    Skyline

    Jailbreak

    Barricade

    Fireplug

    Square Deal

    Lunatic Lock

    Trick Coin Case Japanese Box

    File Box - (K. Malcolmson)

    Ribbon Box - (K. Malcolmson)

    12 Move Puzzle Box - (K. Malcolmson)

    Gift Box - (K. Malcolmson)

    Pennyhedron Box - (K. Malcolmson)

    Jacob’s Ladder - (K. Malcolmson)

    Hidden Compartment Jewelry Box - (K. Malcolmson)

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  3. Where is that guy that was talking about how this was the best thing going out there?

    Just another in a long line of missteps!

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  4. That guy was ROD and hes isn't exactly the best spokesman for YTB

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  5. Don't forget about the underwear companies. They have discontinued items but they know about the undergarment industry. But, they discontinued items that weren't working for them.

    http://www.satinroseintimates.com/index.php?crn=65

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  6. RKS has discontinued some software, they must not know anything about the software business...And they tell you to visit the manufacturer of certain items as they won't be handling them.

    We have discontinued sales of the following programs. As a courtesy to previous owners who need a replacement copy of their program, we have provided download links. To make use of these downloads, you must have previously purchased the product, and you must already have a serial number.

    Just The Fax Things To Do Page O' Labels for File Folders
    Click here for a replacement copy of Just The Fax Click here for a replacement copy of Things To Do Click here for a replacement copy of Page O' Labels for File Folders
    ItsTime ItsPersonal Page O' Labels for Mailing Labels
    Click here for a replacement copy of ItsTime Click here for a replacement copy of ItsPersonal Click here for a replacement copy of Page O' Labels for Mailing Labels
    Tray Calendar Symbol Selector
    Click here for a replacement copy of Tray Calendar Click here for a replacement copy of Symbol Selector

    Technical support is not available for discontinued programs except to current owners, and they are no longer available for sale.
    Please see the manufacturer for updates.

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  7. Here are some programs discontinued by the department of health as the weren't really financailly viable despite the hope that they would be...

    Compendium on Physician Retraining Initiatives
    Discontinued Programs
    MCP Hahnemann University School of Medicine
    New York State Department of Health
    Northport Veterans Association Medical Center
    St. Louis Veterans Administration
    MCP Hahnemann University School of Medicine
    Status: Program has been suspended.

    Program Rationale: "Established to retrain women physicians who had been out of the workforce for several years".

    Reason for Discontinuation: "A general program was not able to address the specific needs of all participants. The program was stopped due to personnel and financial problems. It is now suspended pending a needs assessment and program re-design".

    Goal: "To update their skills in order to permit re-entry into primary care practice".

    Numbers who have participated: Approximately 420.

    Curriculum: Approximately 300 hours of instruction; experience in complete range of primary care.

    Basic Format: Lectures ½ day; Practicum ½ day.

    Accreditation/Certification: CME credit.

    Program Length: 8 weeks.

    Program Cost: Grant supported for 9 years; $5,000 in 1994.

    Physician Placement: No.

    Evaluation: By participants and preceptors.

    Mode of Funding: After 1994, paid for by the program participant.


    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    New York State Department of Health
    Status: Program has been discontinued.

    Origin/Rationale: "In 1994, the Department's Division of Planning, Policy and Resource Development issued a request for proposals for programs to retrain specialist physicians in primary care".

    Reason for Discontinuation: "The RFP was not received with much interest by medical schools in New York State".


    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Northport Veterans Association Medical Center
    Status: Discontinued in 1995.

    Origin/Rationale: "Organization (VA) shifted to a primary care focus. A limited retraining program was presented to assist medical subspecialists with this transition".

    Reason for Discontinuation: "Mission Accomplished."

    Goal: "To allow subspecialists to function as primary care providers".

    Numbers who have participated: 15-20.

    Curriculum: 15 hour-long reviews on the major primary care topics.

    Basic Format: Lecture.

    Accreditation/Certification: No.

    Program Length: 4 months; One lecture/week.

    Program Cost: N/A.

    Physician Placement: Internal.

    Evaluation: N/A.

    Mode of Funding: N/A.


    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    St. Louis Veterans Administration
    Status: Program has been discontinued.

    **No further information could be obtained.

    Current as of July 2001

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  8. The American Board of Medical Physics has this announcement of discontinued programs.

    Discontinued Certification Programs*
    *All diplomates holding certificates in these disciplines may still have their certifcates renewed by compling with the ABMP recertification policy.

    Certificate Name Date Last Awarded

    Diagnostic Imaging Physics July, 2005

    Radiation Oncology Physics July, 2005

    Nuclear Medicine Physics > April, 1992

    Hyperthermia Physics April, 1991

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  9. First of all, generic travel (like the 2 Fly Free program) is not subject to the consumer fickleness like underwear styles or puzzles.

    Secondly, if you listened to any of your own RTAs talk about this program, you would have thought that this was the third coming of Christ.

    Many TTAs and other tried to point out that LVI was not exclusive to YTB, and that the program was indeed a rip off for consumers, but the RTAs would have none of it. It was the best and they were selling the crap out of it. Just like the Olympics.

    And for their sake, I hope they were lying and not selling it--because that is a pretty shitty way to do business--sell someone something and then just let them flounder when you change your mind. Even the puzzle and underwear people will support their products--even when discontinued!

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  10. Here's a list of travel companies that have discontinued YTB:

    Royal Caribbean
    Celebrity
    IATAN
    Azamara
    Perrillo
    ASTA
    ARTA
    A Plus Tours


    And I am sure there are many more that have refused to do business to start with.

    Now, I must go off to my Just Over Broke and earn my money.

    I am surprised all these RTAs are awake, I thought the biggest perk of YTB was sleeping till you wanted to get up and no longer having a need for an alarm clock...at least that is what Candi told us in the video!

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  11. Lets not forget about the McKnight endowment for Neuroscience. They must not know much about neuroscience as they have discontinued programs as well..
    Discontinued Programs

    The two award programs listed below were discontinued in 1999 and 2002, respectively. Click on the links below to locate the names of award recipients, organized by type of award and, within each type, by year.

    To search for an awardee by name, use the Search function.


    McKnight Senior Investigator Awards


    McKnight Investigator Awards

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  12. UMASS LOWELL has discontinued some degree programs. They must not know about educating students...

    Discontinued Degree and
    Certificate Programs
    We are no longer accepting applications into the following degree and certificate programs:

    Associate's Degrees

    Applied Chemistry
    Applied Chemistry: Biotechnology Option
    Applied Chemistry: Hazardous Waste Option
    Applied Mathematics
    Civil Engineering Technology: Water Treatment Option
    Civil Engineering Technology: Wastewater Treatment Option
    Criminal Justice
    Banking

    Bachelor's Degrees

    Applied Chemistry
    Applied Chemistry: Coatings Option
    Applied Mathematics: Computer Mathematics Option

    Certificate Programs

    Accounting
    Banking
    Community Policing
    Data/Telecommunications: Nortel Networks Router
    Technology Track
    Electro Optics
    Engineering Skills
    Environmental Technology
    Hazardous Waste Management
    International Trade
    Interactive Game Design
    Intranet Development
    Novell Option of Data Telecommunications
    Plastics Engineering Technology: Packaging Option
    Pre-masters in Computer Science
    Purchasing
    Quality Assurance
    Security Management
    Semiconductor Manufacturing
    Windows Programming

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  13. Google discontinued their keyboard shortcut service back in 2006. Hmm, google must not know about that stuff..

    Google's Discontinued Services
    Google launched a lot of services over the time. Some were successful, others were decent, but very few were discontinued. Here's a list.

    1. Google Keyboard Shortcuts (2002) - use your keyboard to navigate between search results.

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  14. Does anyone know why it was discountinued? Really? Was it a bad program? Not profitible? What?

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  15. Class, I am glad you all learned cut and past so well--hopefully you were not eating the paste!

    Now if you can take a break from your deflection lessons and stick to the topic it would be appreciated. The Anon poster above had a decent question--why was it stopped?

    And last time I checked, if I earn a degree from a discontinued program, the degree is still valid. The college or university does not say "oh it was discontinued so we wash our hands"

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  16. I don't like that YTB will not assist with a program they sold as exclusively theirs. But as it was sold by RTA's I guess referring to the supplier is par for the course. They get a hefty commission and the customer does the work or accepts that they threw their money away. Throwing money away... RTAs!

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  17. Why was it discontinued?

    More than likely, no one was selling them.

    It was a program that sounded good, but was difficult to explain and too restrictive.

    I have a few hundred RTAs on my team and I have heard no complaints.

    Had it been clothes, it would have found its way to the clearance rack.

    Even saavy clothes buyers buy a dud from time to time.

    No problem here.

    If a customer purchased it, it makes sense that the vendor will fulfill it.

    If the customer has a problem, YTB will take care of it.

    As they always do.

    Sounds like a good company to do business with.

    YTB and TRAVEL: A Great Mix!

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  18. The issue is not that the program was discontinued - the two issues are:

    1. a poor decision was made to market that program in the first place; and,

    2. having sold it (even a limited amount) YTB now refuses to service it.

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  19. "So, they discontinued a program that wasn't working?
    Seems like another good business decision."

    ROTFLMAO at that reasoning. You guys will say or believe anything so YTB comes out smelling like a rose. In this case, it's MANURE! The boys at the top have no industry experience, haven't a clue what they are doing and have no business in travel. Wake up idiots!

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  20. If the customer purchased it thru you, its YOUR responsibility to service it, not the supplier. Again, basic travel 101. You do not pawn your clients off on the supplier because your simply to lazy to work

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  21. Uncle John said, "And last time I checked, if I earn a degree from a discontinued program, the degree is still valid."

    Your degree in Advanced Propaganda Ethics will serve you for a life time.

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  22. I think it comes down to this. YTB is looking for any sign of good news. So this was just another one, release a press release, get all the YTB people humping each other and touting that this is the next great thing. The YTB people get all excited and then dump it when it fails like everything else. Same with the Olympic fiasco. Release press release, YTB people go spouting off about it being the next great thing, then cancel when it fails. Rinse and repeat.

    So now Doug err Mix, it clamoring that this was a great decision. How long before they run out of stuff to try to pump up your egos? The great Dr., Candi, the homeless woman. What next Bigfoot? Aliens?

    And how long before YTB enters the puzzle business? I could see it now, a lifesize 3d puzzle of the "Croth".

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  23. WHAT HAPPENED?

    Poland Maps Discontinued by
    Travel Genie

    LATE TRAINS DISCONTINUED.; NO TRAVEL ON THE SIXTH-AVENUE ELEVATED BETWEEN MIDNIGHT AND 5:30.

    ATA has discontinued all operations and canceled all current and future flights.

    Vacation Designer Software Products Have Been Discontinued

    Discontinued - Pink Ribbon Travel Mug - White

    DISCONTINUED - Ergonomic Foam Travel Neck Pillow

    Frontier Airlines has recently discontinued service to and from the following cities listed below.

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  24. Ok - can we delete out the lists of items as completely stupid - we understand your trying to spam this forum because your so embarrassed that you left you customers hanging AGAIN.

    Hey we know we just sold you a 12 month contract - but go away - we don't stand behind our product.

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  25. what's with the discontinued puzzles et all? Is that supposed to be a justification for denying customer service? Frontier cancelling flights? I sincerely doubt any TTA is going to leave their customer standed because a flight was discontinued.

    say i bought one of those discontinued puzzles from YTB toy store? If it was defective I could take it back and still get my money back, right? I don't believe the FFF program was to be purchased 'as is', no customer satisfaction guaranteed.

    You people are tryung to deflect the real issue - and that is YTB has NO customer service unless someone treatens to go to, or does go to, the press.

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  26. well, what is new????

    how about the Kansas CIty Chiefs booking travel for their fans through YTB

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  27. Anonymous said...
    That guy was ROD and hes isn't exactly the best spokesman for YTB

    No I'm ROD. I have never posted annonymous on this blog.

    I agree I'm not a great spokesman for YTB.

    For what it's worth, IMO the person who failed to protect Coach's integrity by convincing him 2 Fly Free was credible and ready for launch ought to be a former confidant. This is a major corporate embarrasment and in hindsight I think that Coach must have been given only part of the truth when he was sold on the two-fly free program by his close confidants. The confidants may have passed it off to Coach saying 2 Fly Free Package was exclusive to YTB; however; did they let Coach know LVI was already doing business with Corporate America with a "free" Boarding Pass Vacation Incentive which only differed from the 2 Fly Free Program as a one-time use incentive, where the exclusive YTB 2 Fly Free Package is a 1 year program? I don't know. I have my doubts.

    Or was Coach told about the free Boarding Pass vacation incentive and just didn't expect the publicity of the 2 Fly Free Program would activate a fiesty field of travel industry professionals into a broad probe into the validity of the program which eventually revealed a LVI Boarding Pass incentive program in existence which is given away to corporate America.

    This may have been Ted Lindauer's fault for not supplying needed legal counsel prior to the launch. After the fact, Ted publishes a letter that the Two Fly Free program constitutes the offer and sale of Travel Club
    Memberships and/or Club Memberships and/or Discount Buying Service Organization Memberships requiring the obtaining of licenses and the posting of surety bonds in various states prior to their offer and sale.

    As an end result, I was embarrased as I wholeheartedly promoted the program on scam.com and the travel weekly forum as a challenger to the World Ventures Dream Trips. That endeavor soon came crashing down on me try as I did all I could to fight the fact that YTB would not have bought into a product/program inferior to little ole World Ventures.

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  28. We don't need the Olympics!

    We don't need an IATA number!

    We don't need Dickerson!

    We Don't need to fly free!

    We don't need Royal Carribean!

    We don't need an MLM Lawyer!

    We don't need ANYTHING!

    Why? Because we have COACH!

    And he doesn't need his YTB stock!

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  29. I'm a Chiefs fan and YTB didn't book me for any travel. I book thru Expedia as did all my pals.
    I think your exaggerating or having a wishful thinking moment.

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  30. I'm a Chiefs fan and YTB didn't book me for any travel. I book thru Expedia as did all my pals.
    I think your exaggerating or having a wishful thinking moment.

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  31. "Or was Coach told about the free Boarding Pass vacation incentive and just didn't expect the publicity of the 2 Fly Free Program would activate a fiesty field of travel industry professionals into a broad probe into the validity of the program which eventually revealed a LVI Boarding Pass incentive program in existence which is given away to corporate America."

    But doesn't this happen over and over again? Shanghai Springs - immediately, a host of REAL Travel Agents noted and posted that Shanghai Springs is not authorized to sell events tickets to anyone but Chinese nationals ... we all knew! So Coach is constantly being taken advantage of by unscrupulous "confidants"? Come on now, don't you get it? COACH MAKES POOR DECISIONS! Over and over again.

    BTW - this announcement about the Chiefs comes out and the stock immeidately begins to drop. What's that about? And will fans like that the Chiefs are now in some wierd way RTAs? Surely, they agreed to this because they believe they'll be reaping huge commmissions on the air and hotel pakcages? What's up with that? Anyone who has been following a team around for years will continue to do so with his/her current TA or for that matter, Orbitz, etc....

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  32. What's really interesting is that YTB issues a Press Release and nothing is up on the KC Chiefs' website. What kind of Communications Director do you people have that s/he would not make sure this was up and ready to go prior to announcement? The whole idea of a press release is get "buzz", get people interested, get them to go look at the new program - and yet there is nothing there! (Sort of like the MIA press release on the purchase of whatever that student tavel company is. Only this time there is a press release - it's just a half-assed one.)

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  33. Well, there is something...it's a new website - Chiefs Travel or something like that... but I have to agree that it is inexcusable that there's nothing on the Chiefs' site that directs one to this new travel site.....just like YTB - they drive no one to their RTAs sites - adn this is just simply another RTA site!

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  34. YTB The Three Stooges of Travel!

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  35. Rod--I think you are giving Coach entirely too much credit!

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  36. I'm sticking with Expedia, thanks very much. The Chiefs get enough of my money as it is!

    Just for fun, I went to look at the site and google didn't bring it up. at least not on the first page and I seldom go farther than that. I don't think this is an official site, but just another 500.00 and 50x12 for friends of a fan.
    My 2 cents

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  37. Anonymous said...
    BTW - this announcement about the Chiefs comes out and the stock immeidately begins to drop. What's that about?

    It's YTB's version of the Texas Two Step: Three Steps Forward... Two Steps Back.

    John said...
    Rod--I think you are giving Coach entirely too much credit!

    Well you're right in that Coach picks his confidants. He should've picked em better.

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  38. Things that should be discontinued:

    Anonymous posting on this blog.
    Register an account and put your name behind what you think all you cowards!

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  39. Ooops..my bad. Yes I agree 100%, enough of the anon's pick a name at least or are you too lazy to even do that

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  40. "What's really interesting is that YTB issues a Press Release and nothing is up on the KC Chiefs' website. What kind of Communications Director do you people have that s/he would not make sure this was up and ready to go prior to announcement? The whole idea of a press release is get "buzz", get people interested, get them to go look at the new program - and yet there is nothing there! (Sort of like the MIA press release on the purchase of whatever that student tavel company is. Only this time there is a press release - it's just a half-assed one.)

    "Well, there is something...it's a new website - Chiefs Travel or something like that... but I have to agree that it is inexcusable that there's nothing on the Chiefs' site that directs one to this new travel site.....just like YTB - they drive no one to their RTAs sites - adn this is just simply another RTA site!"

    Are you people kidding, or just selectively ignorant?

    This is from the Chiefs' website: http://www.kcchiefs.com/news/2008/05/13/chiefs_ytb_international_launch_travel_partnership/

    There you will find a link to the travel booking website and a video with Bobby Bell.

    ...and to Mr. kc "I don't know how to google" slugger, if you try entering "kansas city chiefs travel" guess what the #1, 2, 3 and 4 top search results are? Here's a hint: http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4GGIH_enUS254US254&q=kansas+city+chiefs+travel

    Get a clue.

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  41. Things that should be discontinued:

    John's gawdy line of women's clothing.

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  42. YTB Travel is still the greatest company in the mlm travel industry. Just pure haters on this blog.

    Go YTB Travel

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  43. For someone in the travel industry you ought to know how to spell gaudi. Ever been to BCN--hint it is in Europe and where the term originated!

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  44. Anon.....

    Kinda funny how you post a link on here and then it gives you an error to the KC Chiefs page. Nice try trying to back your stories and lies.

    Again YTB and Travel a BAD Mix

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  45. Try cutting and pasting:

    http://www.kcchiefs.com/news/2008/05/13/chiefs_ytb_international_launch_travel_partnership/

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  46. The blog cuts off the last part of the link. The date should be followed by
    chiefs_ytb_international_launch_travel_partnership/

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  47. John said: "For someone in the travel industry you ought to know how to spell gaudi."

    You're right. 'Gaudi' doesn't accurately describe the line. I should have said 'slutty'.

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  48. "Kinda funny how you post a link on here and then it gives you an error to the KC Chiefs page. Nice try trying to back your stories and lies."

    So you think the KC news is a lie? go to their main site at www.kcchiefs.com, click on News, then click on the top Feature story. Then click on the links in the story. Then call the Chiefs and tell them they're lying.

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  49. Chiefs and YTB - Losing mix.

    I was told that YTB worked for months on that site. Well, it looks to me like every other YTB site with a different background. Amateurish and definitely not major league.
    Go Expedia!

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  50. Idiots...

    Gaudi was a Spanish architect. His name is pronounced more like:

    Gah ouw dee (best I can do on-line).

    Gawdy is an adjective:

    showy: brightly colored or showily decorated to an unpleasant or vulgar degree and pronounced:

    Gaw dee

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  51. Yes, 'slutty" is a better word to use as "gawdy" is not the proper word to describe what you wanted to, but what can one expect from a HS barely-grad? Becuase if you graduated from college we'll need to make sure we don't send our kids to that one!

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